Leeds Banter Archive February 16 2016

16 Feb 2016 21:28:04
Seems to me that very few Leeds fans are behind the time to go Massimo campaign with a lot of sense around what happens if he walks away being talked about. Does anybody else think it's all a very professional with adverts and projections and quite a bit of money being spent. More than just a few fans behind this I think!

16 Feb 2016 22:32:35
They are a group called w.a.c.c.o.e. They number around 70 people and have quite a few high profile people involved. I agree it's professional, but fan's groups should be grass roots up not an elitist bunch.

{Ed003's Note - a spokesperson was on Talksp*rt today,I only caught the end but I'm sure it is available through them (h&J show) that's enough advertising them I won't do it again lol.}

17 Feb 2016 09:17:09
even if they are very professional and do have lots of numbers don't mean it is a good idea. the nazi's were very organised and professional and at one point had lots of numbers behind them. don't mean it was a good idea.

17 Feb 2016 13:27:10
sorry to advertise or mention anther site or radio station but did anyone find a link to the H&J show as would love to hear what they have to say and how they come across, failing that anyone hear it and can let us know the jist of it?

16 Feb 2016 19:01:55
Is there anyone on this site that is part of the Cellino out campaign. (I don't just mean you don't like him but actually putting money into the campaign) .
If so can you please tell me what happens if you get your way and he walks away, like tomorrow say.
I'm not looking for an argument with anyone, I'm genuinely interested in what happens the day after he leaves? 😵.

16 Feb 2016 19:28:26
Danum
I'm guessing you won't be inundated with responses.

16 Feb 2016 19:49:25
Well Danum I'm with you on this, I would expect Bates to arrive and complete what he started. He thought he had done for us with the GFH crowd, they nearly finished us off, but for some reason the mad Italian came and started the task of saving Leeds. Now I don't agree with a lot of what has happened under Cellino, but I think he is doing what he thinks is the best way to fix us. I think he has finally woke up to the size of the task.

16 Feb 2016 20:05:42
The day after he leaves they start on someone else, evans, ant, naylor whoever sad bunch.

16 Feb 2016 20:16:00
That's the truth not speaking for me nameless and faceless where's their spokesman it's shocking that a few can get so much attention.

16 Feb 2016 20:20:34
Odds on before he is forced to walk out he will sell cook Mowatt taylor and anyone else he can get decent money for. And who would blame him if he did that. If we don't show him loyalty, why should he show us any while he is closing the door behind him. MC is part of our team, love him or hate him, just like any player is, possibly more so as it is costing him money when the players are here for the money, and let's face it money talks now, not loyalty.

MoT and for the moment with MC. careful what you wish for.

16 Feb 2016 20:59:50
AGM
Thank god someone else realises what dangers still lurk in the shadows . I'll stick with MC, for all his faults, thank you very much.

16 Feb 2016 21:16:47
agree with every comment made by every poster here. I have seen little logic or answers to any decent question from the MC out brigade. I heard bates is very interested in leeds again now he has another lot of talent to rape leeds of. MC is better for leeds than some would give credit for and there seems to be very little logic in any agurment against as much as he can drive us all a little crazy at times.

16 Feb 2016 17:43:52
There were some very positive things to come out of last nights game, for the second game running we proved we are capable of keeping the ball (all but with a small number of real chances, their goalkeeper made two very good saves) .

However as we are Leeds United nothing is easy or so clean cut with other clubs. Unlike a lot of people who are blaming sky completely for our low attendances I am afraid I don't agree with that opinion entirely. Sure we would have got more fans attending if the game was on a Saturday, however the club also needs to look at its pricing of yesterday's game, to be honest there are a large number of fans that do not attend games due to the cost of tickets this coupled with the dross we have seen at ER means some fans do not see watching Leeds Utd at home as value for money. The club needs to look at its pricing of games as the next home game tickets are priced at £32. Is this price really justified when we are playing Bolton? I really hope that people that stayed away from last nights game return and once again make ER the fortress we know it can be. The sky situation needs to be sorted as my concern with this is not the attendance but the times games are frequently played, this needs to be looked at.

I have been very critical of MC, personally I don't have a gripe with him, I just wish at times he would take step back before he makes statements. Last weeks fiasco around the poster outside the club was in my opinion handled in the wrong way, especially as the day before MC was filmed saying he had introduced the pie tax as a result of criticism from fans. I think it would have been better to take the poster situation on the chin and let the situation go by without all of the fuss of threatening court action. I am not for one minute suggesting he should tolerate that type of behaviour, I am asking him to think about his actions as the revelation surrounding the pie tax and then the poster debacle has mean't some fans see themselves as being taken advantage off.

It has come to light today that Leeds were told of the original date of yesterday's fixture back in early December and MC refused to accept the game being played last night, he was then given the option to play the game on a Saturday again he refused to accept that proposed move, I believe it is for situations such as this why some fans feel so fed up with all of the antics MC gets up to. If you are going to take on the football league fare play, however before statements are made please think about the consequences of your actions and if you are right. Let's be honest we are a Marmite club you either love us or hate us and the haters would like nothing less than us to be relegated.

It is clear we have the possible makings of a team that can challenge for promotion, it however depends on the money that is invested in the squad. I am definitely not asking for us to be in debt, I am asking that any money received as a result of a transfer is re-invested in the squad this coupled with any money that could be given from the club will I believe mean we are able to mount a push for promotion in the years to come, this will obviously only be possible if we keep our outstanding crop of youngsters.

16 Feb 2016 14:44:50
I know that things aren't all perfect at ER far from it - BUT - I don't get the Time to go Massimo campaign, I understand he's controversial, a bit of a loose cannon and at times is confrontational but there are many many owners of football clubs that are lesser owners than Massimo.

He's not perfect, he's bullish puts his mouth in gear before engaging his brain and often offends - BUT - I believe he does actually give a S#it about the club - At least he won't be taken for a ride, he may deal with it in inappropriate ways but you can be sure he won't be turned over.

Until the Multi billionaire knight in Leeds Whites turns up I say that we should get behind the team, club and if that means Massimo then so be it, with everything we have, we may have years waiting to see the big times again but we are Leeds and that shoul mean something- MOT.

16 Feb 2016 15:20:11
Ditto to that.

16 Feb 2016 16:01:36
There have been and are worst.

16 Feb 2016 18:30:33
I say he's a lunatic but he's our lunatic.

16 Feb 2016 18:41:50
love that wexleeds I got a mate like that he is a complete A"""H""e but he is our A"""H""e.

16 Feb 2016 12:30:48
Great game last night! We just need to find consistency and improve final 3Rd, thought the Douk, hess's mate bellusci, Dave and Bridcutt were immense real quality.

What makes this site so interesting is the opinions granted sometimes peoples opinions can get a bit personal sometimes but I agree with Mel body double! Its not malicious it probably is just frustration boiling over! Wherever there is a problem, there will always be a solution, whenever there is Ying there is a yang, it's dark at night but you know that the sun will come up in the morning, science says that there is negative and positive, you can't have 2 negatives it just doesn't happen, I'm getting a bit deep 😂 but I guess my point is keep the faith err on the side of positivity you will get what you focus on! i'm a big believer in fate, and I know our fortunes will change for the better soon, I feel we are in transition at the moment but I also feel we are heading in the positive direction there will be some negativity along the way, but If we the fans and the club keep heading in a positive direction, we will all get we focus on, and fate will probably decide if Massimo stays or goes, if he goes there will always be someone who will love to takeover! Would it be better or worse? Who knows again that's down to my old mate Fate, we are Leeds! we keep on marching, until we find our victory Keep the faith people Keep the faith! 😂 😎.

16 Feb 2016 16:44:24
It's frustration more than anything now, for too long we'v been told that premier league is the aim but it just doesn't happen, sure, no one club or it's fans have the right to demand premier league or feel they inherently deserve it but when you look at a city like Leeds and its one football club, the massive fan base and the history it really does beg belief.
A lot of my friends who are not Leeds supporters simply can not believe we're still in a lower league, from an investment point of view alone Leeds in the PL just makes sense, yet week in week out were fed this BS and enough is enough, the thing is MC could take us there, he has the capital and the passion but his reckless way of doing things, his complete lack of respect for staff and players, his poor knowledge of English football, tax evasion court cases, constant battles with the FL and now Sky all detracts from what we're suppost to be doing as a football club, it must be clouding his vision its kind of like saying you wan't to steer the ship in the right direction but there are a lot of ice bergs and drift wood that i'm trying to dodge and a lot going on so you forgot to change the oil oh and it hasn't had a good service in a while and there's quite a bit of rust on the old girl but hey! all aboard and don't forget yer wallets! the reality is that the ship won't sail and once again we'l finish mid-table, ask yourself "is Leeds utd really a tier 2 mid-table club?

If MC is holding back on investing until he is clear about where he stands with the FL. Seriously! do we as fans deserve this? was it your idea for him to sly in a RangeRover without paying VAT? I don't remember any conversation with MC where I told him he'd be fine not paying tax on that yacht, yet here we are suffering and the upshot of it all leave's us feeling like once again we have another Bates, another asset stripper, show me otherwise! McCormack £11M, Byram £3.7M that by my count is over £14 million that he could invest back in to the playing squad but unfortunalty all the evidence suggests its gone back in to his pocket, again someone please convince me it ain't so.

Look at how other clubs have managed promotion, Bournemouth, Norwich, Leicester City - they all had solid structure, a boardroom that saw potential and a focus. Leeds? it's like a snakes and ladders board.
Sorry but this is just the way I and thousands of other fans feel. Rant nearly over i'l end with this.
We live in Huddersfield, my two kids don't support Leeds, my youngest supports town because he feels that if he's going to watch championship football he might as well do it down the road, my eldest supports Liverpool because he wants to watch premier league football, how can I convince them any other? they want what they want now not in a few years time, you know. if all these false promises had bared fruit just a little over 2 or 3 years ago my kids would be supporting Leeds, wearing Leeds kit, I'd be taking my son's to Elland Rd on a Saturday but sadly its not the case.

16 Feb 2016 17:37:12
Cellino's action regarding sky coverage seems to suggest that he is not looking for a quick sale.

16 Feb 2016 18:24:19
sorry pawlo but can not agree with some points, I do not think it is beggers belife we are not a prem team, we were not a prem team for many long periods of our history and now is just another one of them times, we have always been a one city club with big following but who were we before reive took over and in the 80's we were as bad (if not worse then than we are now) . I also think most fans agree the reason we are not prem is down to other chairmen and not Mc and under MC things have got better. Ok he is crazy and does a lot of things that annoy and are silly but has the club gone backwards since he took over? is our lack of prem status down to him or bates and risdale ect.

also I don't think it is fair or accurate to say he has assest stripped our club, all of the assest were sold well before he come and since he has been here he has kept hold of our good players or sold them for good prices, as for saying he doesn't reinvest he has brought over 17 players for club and some of them for expensive fees (good or bad players can be argued waste of money same but you can not deny he has invested in players and paid decent fees) .

also I find your argument about why your kids are leeds fans a little out of line. to blame the fact your kids do not support leeds due to the fact we are not prem is maybe a little misplaced. my way a lot of people support millwall, charlton and leyton oriend dispite them not be prem teams, reasons being they follow family, freinds or other reasons but not being successful I don't think can be blamed in all honesty. I am leeds fan as my step dad was leeds and I followed his team, we were in div 2 (as it was known back then) and a pretty poor team this did not affect my choice as it did not affect all leeds fans of a certain age maybe even yourself (im guessing by age of your potential age and age of children) being a leeds fan in london has given me lots of stick, got me into fights and has made my life a lot harder than if I had maybe gone for local or bigger team but that is not what football is about it is about the choices an individual makes and to say it is all down to prem or not maybe is not fully correct.