Leeds Banter Archive April 15 2015

 

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15 Apr 2015 23:12:33
What position/Positions would you want to strengthen in the summer? I'd go for a new centre back, a prolific 20+ goal striker and 2-3 wingers.

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16 Apr 2015 00:40:15
Add on to that replace with equal quality our young midfielders who will be sold to provide Cellino compo when he sells in summer.

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16 Apr 2015 01:37:01
I reckon we'll see a take over go through. New Manager in and a house clearing except for all the young talent.

Now. on the upside. Result on Tuesday meant we are at last mathematically guaranteed to have Championship football next season.

Round November of last . I were fearing much worse.

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16 Apr 2015 12:51:15
Thing George is right, although let's hope not!

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16 Apr 2015 14:32:13
What I did not like was what Umbers said a couple weeks ago. "We now know what we need to do to make lufc successful". It infers they did not realize before. It also infers they've committed themselves to an act that might not be popular with fans but has long pay off potential. A trade. How about the club's soul for Red Bull? Sounds like it to me. Means Cellino wants a good deal, sounds like a few assets may be stripped along way and those with brains and ethics couldn't bear to watch. Childs and Thommo. This proves Redders tactically inept. He is still here!

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15 Apr 2015 17:30:20
Be interesting to see who comes and who goes in the summer. Think Adryan allready gone. Monty Del boy, Van the man and Cani will all join him I guess. Not sure Ant will stay either. Think Ngoyi looked good but that recurring injury has me worried, is he worth taking the chance. Bianchi will also be looking for another club as will Sloth. That will leave us thin on the ground.
Park Soo Young is a free agent decent good work rate. And an ex Arsenal winger who caught my eye a while back, quick and a good shot, name something like Ryo Machaeca is a fre agent. Hope we get some decent players not the players other championship teams don't want.

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15 Apr 2015 17:18:23
sorry also got to say where does all this no manager would work under MC come from. it is so silly and blind to say a manager will not work for a directo/chairman who sacks managers. managers don't mind getting sacked, hey get paid off, it don't affect futrue work and they can blame chairman. leeds will not sturggle to get managers who are out of work or with smaller/lower clubs. look at watford, chealsea, man city, man utd recently, spurs, villa and even millwall. all have gone throuhg a few managers recently, in fact so many mangers lose there jobs in the league these days it is acceted, yet people so go for these jobs. if you do well great you are hero and get rise, if you get sacked so be it good payoff and new job just around corner. sad but is the way of football everywhere not just mc and leeds united

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15 Apr 2015 17:39:06
Any manager looking for work would come to Leeds because if he was successful he would be all over the back pages of every paper. let's not blame Cellino, Nobody wanted Hock or Milanic. We are divided over Reders. If Cellino thinks Redfearn can take us forward he will be here next season. If he thinks he is out of his depth at the moment he will either get him help or more likely get another coach and send him back to academy. My main concern is which players stay, who we buy in summer, but will say Dan Petrescu would be a choice coach

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15 Apr 2015 21:26:43
Think he need a coach who has championship experience so I wouldn't bring in any manager from abroad

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16 Apr 2015 00:28:03
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Don't rule out a return for Larry. I'm sure deep down he's itching to have another go. Unfinished business I'd say. And if MC is still here, probably within his budget

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{Ed003's Note - He/or his agent was very interested last time in the idea of returning}

16 Apr 2015 11:00:32
I would rather have the guy from Brentford really impressed me this year. Cannot believe they want to get rid of him.

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16 Apr 2015 12:08:17
It's not just being fired that people would be worried about. Stuff like not being able to have input into transfers, being almost forced to play certain players and farcical stuff like having your assistant manager fired with no knowledge of it beforehand. These are the reasons we won't be able to attract good managers, we're currently a joke!

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16 Apr 2015 16:49:06
I like Grayson. Leeds through and through. Doesn't necessarily make him the best person of course. I would def have been happy with a Grayson/Redders combo

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16 Apr 2015 17:58:11
Love Speedy's idea of a Larry/ Redders combo, for me that would be perfect. If MC could get him back, take a back seat & let them do it their way I'm convinced they'd get us back. Unfortunately I just don't see it in MC and agree with Surrey that behind the scenes we're a shambles. Been disheartened since Thommo left but will follow Leeds till the day I die. Sorry if I sound negative but I want promotion so much it f hurts MOT

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17 Apr 2015 09:01:21
i love larry he got us a good team with hands tied and with more backing or even just less stripping he would of took us to prem however if I was chairman I would get mark warburton (whateverthe name of brentford guy is). he knows the country knows the league and done a good job. eddie howes would be great but think he will stayat broumouth as they are doing well. NO to gus would rather redders. Still disagree leeds will be able to get any manager unless they are with bigger club that is how football works, unemployed manager or ones with smaller clubs will say yes to leeds or any 'big'championship club. I think harry redknapp would also be interested in leeds although done see him wanteing to leave poole and tha is one commute

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15 Apr 2015 15:25:48
Owner - not allowed near the club and future uncertain.
Director of Operations - resigned
Director of Football - MIA presumed to have resigned.
Assistant coach - suspended / gone.
Behaviour regarding above suspension points to disrupting head coach.
No talk of contracts for players or head coach.
No comments on what is happening from the board other than Umbers poor explanation about Thompson.

Either the PG tips monkeys are running the club or there is a takeover in the air. I'm not saying its rouge cow but something certainly seems to be up.

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15 Apr 2015 19:18:25
The fact that nothing is happening on all those fronts is weird. I'd like to think it's a takeover and it is at least consistent with a takeover. Let's hope so. I think pretty much everyone has had enough of present chaos.

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15 Apr 2015 21:12:39
Perfect post white knight

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15 Apr 2015 22:08:28
It does suggest that who ever is running the club is setting it up as a blank canvas for next season.

Whether it be for a takeover or for a new crack by MC.

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15 Apr 2015 14:47:02
Does this make sense
Sale agreed
Mc to stay away in accordance with ban
All unnecessary management got rid of!
Reddders to follow
No players sold till next August 30th
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Please?

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17 Apr 2015 12:02:43
Yep, that does make sense
But knowing us, there will be a million twists and turns before the start of next season. Another eventful summer in prospect, and probably not a happy one.

By the way, if Red Bull are planning to buy us, why don't they keep us white, and invent a White Bull drink? The red stuff tastes like sh**e anyway!

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15 Apr 2015 14:10:02
ok everyone on here knows I am very much a hard person to please and often negitive but we all seem so low at the moment and so negitive I hoped to be positive for once. 1stly we are not going down, under hock I was certain we would finish bottom. 2ndly we have some good players, our keeper I think is one of the best in league and won us a lot of points, ant is class forward and think will bdo better next year under different formation, we have some great young players, cook class (reminds me of gazza) mowatt class (reminds me of lampard) byram, taylor, phillps all look good. is redders amazing no he is not but he has done well to keep us up, should tommo still be here yes but I think he had to go as redders will be sacked and placed backat academy where he is maybe best suited. is mc mad as box of frogs. yes but he saved leeds and is a passionate football man who by his track record does better by his clubs than he does by the tax man. we are no longer in dbet, we no longer sellof best players for a tenner and we could be going in the right direction certain we are not going down so let's be thankfulfor that. that said we have to be aiming for prem we are leeds MOT

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15 Apr 2015 14:33:53
Good post mate
All prob true
But why are we so bad about getting it right?
How many teams with 40,000 potential have spent so long out of top flight
It seems a jigsaw too hard for us
Never do we have. An owner. Manager. And team worthy of Leeds at the same time!
Yet our fans are 50% of our value and they expect us/you to turn up and watch garbage!

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15 Apr 2015 15:02:43
I think we all know we're not going to go down BW and I'm not sure where you get your info about not being in debt, please enlighten us.

MM

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15 Apr 2015 15:36:19
We are in debt to Massimo but as long as he owns us its a manageable debt that stays within the club. If he sells I assume whoever buys will have to settle the debts owed to him, hence the 90 mill price tag

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15 Apr 2015 15:36:32
i thought the club was clear of dbet and that is what opens us up for potential take over? might be wrong but thought that was the case

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15 Apr 2015 17:10:26
not sure just thought we were out of debt and this opened us up to offers from other buyers. I thought this was kind of public knowlegde, if not then clearly I may of misunderstood this and might be wrong (doesnt happen often as last time I was wrong was 1986 so due to be wrong again soon)> also agree we are too big with too good a youth system and fan base to be out of prem for so long. I think grayson had it right and his team would of been good enough if given funds and not pulled to bits by ken bates. think mc is dencent football guy and did right by his last club and his sale of RM would show we are no longer selling for peanuts club. I do like some of the squad and think next year could be good for us with right manager and additions to playng staff, then I say that most years, apart form this one as I was sure we would go down

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15 Apr 2015 18:12:13
The trouble with Cellino is he may either get bored of the FLs constant vendetta with LUFC or just get bored and be tempted a move elsewhere. If he does he could try and cash in and asset strip the club to get a few quid before he goes ie. sell Cook, Mowatt, Taylor and Byram which will lower his asking price in any case. I hope I am wrong and he doesn't can anyone second guess what the man from Del Monte will do next? This close season will make things clearer. I think it's a case of watch this space.

I'm also still unconvinced we are debt free as nobody has publicly said anything to my knowledge. Cellino was banging on about buying 'our home' back and this hasn't happened either.

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16 Apr 2015 11:08:53
Constant vendetta he is a multi millionaire who as been caught twice for not paying tax. I thought all rich people found a way not to pay but to get caught twice and once for importing a car. Embarrassing

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16 Apr 2015 17:37:13
I was referring to FLs constant vendetta with Leeds United not Cellino

MM

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15 Apr 2015 12:07:01
Jurgen klopp has apparently stepped down as manager of Dortmund, and mc is probably looking for a new manager next year, looks pretty realistic to me! and yet again nr leaves doukara out who is tall, fast and strong, all the good attributes of a lone striker, he is also good at heading, finishing and has a powerful shot

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15 Apr 2015 14:44:26
God that's a tough post to answer!
Yes
U what?
Yes no
Bugger
I give up

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15 Apr 2015 15:29:49
Doukara is rubbish (so is Cani), that's why he is left out.

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15 Apr 2015 17:12:07
sorry but what a rediculas post leedsyar clearly has no clue about football or leeds, Jurgen Klopp is nowhere near good enough to be leeds manager how could he walk in the same shoes as redders, darko and hock. sillyiest post i have seen in years

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16 Apr 2015 08:37:03
That's why doukara is still one of our top scorers and assisters this season, sit down Bic. And I'm not being serious bw, obviously he wouldn't go to Leeds

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17 Apr 2015 09:04:00
no Leedsyar again you are wrong klopp would love to come to leeds just think we wcould do better I mean he is ok at best certainly no Hock. I heard klopp loves us so much he plays as us on a managerment sim game closest he will get :P

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17 Apr 2015 11:58:21
No one can live up to the hocks standard, klopp would be too afraid of joining Leeds because he would not live up to what the hock did

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15 Apr 2015 10:45:50
well n played all his cards and nothing now . said swithed taylor byram other so as to cross ball ver who to a striker who's 5ft 8 is sharp going to win ball in air NO so if that was plan you need someone tall one not tried cani his only option for high balls . said playing people out of position why . did he mean same two if so drop taylor and bryam back to backs . we do have sloth and others .he said norwich 2nd so we did well mid table team but hang on who's top and we beat them twice . bamba is a strong player yet should be in totally control at the back . when eading ball you attack it and make they forwards know your there he jumps next to them . and worse was wotton he followed ball when they came down our left he went across leaving two layers unmarked and charlie covering and he keeped calling him over and he took no notice didn't nr see this .nr stated players scoring goals but not in right area meaning STRIKERS . BUT HAS KEEPED TO THE SAME TWO THIS YEAR . when you have one striker 5ft 8 and keeper drop kicks or goal kick the ball is in the air and ho wins it every time norwich . even a 3year old can work that one out . if your mainly a small team one needs to keep ball on ground

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15 Apr 2015 14:53:57
Bamba is ok in the air and for latch ditch tackles but is seriously lacking pace and was exposed last night. I agree with the comment about Sharp not winning a ball in the air and their keeper was plucking the ball out of the air for fun last night. Did we change our approach? No. I think Redders is OK but tactically inept and cannot change a game. Having said that I still think he's coping admirably under very difficult circumstances for a manager/coach.

MM

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15 Apr 2015 17:13:51
perfectanaylasiis of NR mad mick, he has done well under circumstances, got us playing ok at times and got some very good results but not answer long term as can't change game and can't see bigger picture.he is not useless as some sayjust not quite good enough

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16 Apr 2015 10:58:25
yes most weeks we the same against Norwich sat back allowed them to pass ball around with no trouble again one good half and crap second and did we look like scoring no

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15 Apr 2015 10:32:16
Are next seasons fixtures out yet?
I'm just trying to suss out where our next points will be coming from! ;)

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15 Apr 2015 14:36:34
Glass half full mate
Good on you

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15 Apr 2015 09:43:17
I don't know the lower leagues but surely there must be a manager/coach somewhere that knows how to play his players in the right position and has sound tactical knowledge? Any ideas?

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15 Apr 2015 11:37:11
Karl Robinson?

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15 Apr 2015 12:13:21
I'm certain there is. However I doubt they will agree to com work under cellino now that's it's become very public the way he likes to do things. Also I doubt he's willing to offer them a wage suitable when they could get a higher one elsewhere

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15 Apr 2015 08:31:28
I understand people want redders out, but he's just one of many reasons why our form has been so bad. He's never going to be the best manager to grace leeds but let's be honest were not going to get Lambert or Poyet etc. so maybe it's readers or an even more clueless 'coach', except this coach won't know the academy and won't be as passionate about leeds.

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15 Apr 2015 13:08:35
More clueless than Redders??does such a coach exist?

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15 Apr 2015 14:02:51
redders is not that bad. more clueless than redder erm let me think. HOCKADAY

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15 Apr 2015 07:19:50
Andy has mentioned this in a previous post and I agree that teams are quite comfortable with our 1 lone striker. Sharp tried in the first half last night but it was comfortable for the Norwich centre backs and when he did get in behind them and square a decent ball into the penalty area there were no runners from midfield for what would have been a tap in and 1-0.

Having said that we looked tired last night all over the pitch. No energy from midfield and playing that system requires runners. Norwich had good shape to their team and sadly last night we were clueless and very rarely got in behind them. Jonny Howson was the best player on the pitch in my opinion and even apologised after scoring for what is was worth!
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15 Apr 2015 02:59:11
I despair
I don't understand what reddders is doing with the players we have
I'm not sure he does either
We will poss lose our last 6-7 games. Now if that was beginning of season. He'd be gone
Recent weeks have shown his failings in management and team selection and tactics.
They still expect u lot to go and watch though
Baffling

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15 Apr 2015 08:22:35
Only 3 games left loss to charlton and Wednesday maybe we can nick a win against Rotherham on final day,

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15 Apr 2015 09:40:56
Glass half full are you?

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15 Apr 2015 02:32:49
Umbrella man and tax dodger better have something up sleeve and reveal soon otherwise fans will turn up heat on every management member

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15 Apr 2015 09:11:51
Is Salerno still there?

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15 Apr 2015 02:16:47
My biggest fear

To me it looks as if MC has become bored with his new toy (Our Club).

I fear that he has decided to pull the plug on us and has already or will sell at a cheap price. To retrieve some of his money he will sell Byram, Cook, and Mowatt to the highest bidders for whatever he can get for them, meaning that the loss will be reduced by 20 odd mil.
We are just being left to flounder by the looks of things.

I hope I am wrong, but seriously doesn't it look this way.

Crawling On Together

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15 Apr 2015 09:57:31
Think you're right fredh. There is no leadership at the club. We are safe from relegation and should be using the last few games to find out who we want to keep next season. If we play everyone in their natural position we may get a resultaat. Playing full backs in midfield hasn't worked. We just leak goals. Time for 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1

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15 Apr 2015 12:30:20
Of course he became disinterested and disillusioned. Once FL went after him, he reneged on these promises:

Buy ground
Get really good players
Transparency to fans

He is clearly about to sell and my guess is an affiliate of Red Bull is calling the shots. My next guess is someone in that power process wants our club to fail so it can do what it wants with us as we will feel desperate. Red Bull Leeds here we come. It's why Childs left. It's why Thommo called Salerno an anagram of darter. It's why Salerno resigned.

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14 Apr 2015 23:30:11
Wasn't as bad as Sat, but still tactically poor,
The loan striker up front has been Sussed by opposing teams, we chase and harass but realistically we have no quality in the final third, felt a bit for Sharp because he ran his cream crackers off just to get anywhere near the ball, we have full backs as supposedly wingers.
They aren't they have no pace or ability to either go down the flanks or cut into the box to cause problems, we have no target man, Not one of our front men can hold the ball up, they are inept as target men,
We had 7 corners tonight I think their keeper caught 2 and their defence cleared the rest apart from one.
Debatable . will Redfearn be Coach/ Manager next season, is he doing the best with what he has at present, or if he has his own choice of players can he change tactics to make us a team to challenge for promotion.

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14 Apr 2015 23:29:41
nr said change taylor byram over to have crossers rather than shooters but surely coming inside on your best foot means you can shoot . but taylor was to far back because wotton was all over the place and he keeped having to play right back

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