Leeds Banter Archive September 14 2014

14 Sep 2014 23:43:45
I agree bermondsey, I strongly believe we have a chance of the play offs this year because I believe we now have a squad that's strong in depth the only thing that will take a bit of time is for them all to bond and gel but the signs are good already the passing albeit a bit rugged and astray sometimes was impressive! and it will only get better Massimo is being cautious on the next Coach but hey redders is capable so no mega rush eh folks! there's no big egos they all seem to be pulling together I really believe we could be the dark horses for the play offs this year! but hey what do I know I have only followed my beloved Leeds since 1973 lol see ya all at bournemouth regards dj

Wow fan since 1973 you need to have the hope. I have been since 89 and in that time learnt to hope and dream, however I do think this year or next we could be realistics threats to this league. I personally don't care what league we are in and loved our time in league 1 (of course prefer us in the prem) but as long as we are doing well and playing good football and palying with pride and doing the shirt and fans proud I am happy. good times ahead MOT

14 Sep 2014 21:54:22
ok post for all, both doomers and gloomers and the postivies. considering how many changes we have had, the fact the club could well of folded where is a realistic a decent finish this year and will we reach that or do better or worse? I am pleased with money spent and the age and potential of players although things are not amazing at the moment I think we will improve and do well (i think we will finish 6th or 7th and be very strong after christmas) on another note how good is lewis cook and slivestri I think they will both be England regulars by euro 2016. some might think that is optomistic but I think at least both will make england squad even if not starting 11, realistic or am I being optomistic?

Lewis cook maybe but not Silvesrti as he is Italian. Cook plays like he is 22/23yo just hope he continues to learn and be patient and he will be a quality player for us if we keep hold of him which I think we can do now we have some stability with Cellino. M.O.T

Will Silvestre qualify for England?

I think under mc we will start keeping our players or if selling them at least letting them go for what they are worth and cook is starting to look like he might be a 20m player I think he could be that good. and of course Marco Slivertri quaifys for England, I heard he is changing his name to mark smith and will be making at least one big gaff a year that way at least everyone will think he is english

Bermondsey I couldn't agree more about Cook. This kid has got a bright future. I thought Dawson may have broken through too this season but with all the midfield signings I am not so sure now.

Wow you've certainly changed your tune BW. After the first game of the season you had us relegated despite a lot of us saying it's only one game! Half a dozen games in and now you've got us in the play-offs?

MM

All about the coach MM, always had faith in MC but believe the manager/coach can make a world of difference. palace under holloway were going to go down and hopeless under pulis they were top six team on form, man u won title under fergouson and pretty much same team finish 7th under moyes. I think had we stuck with hockaday we would of gone down if he can nearly religat forest green from none league he clearly had abaility to take us down. now however he has gone so my tune and optomisim has changed. think we have good players with potential and once we gel we would could go on a great run. just need the right guy to come in and we will be flying

Bermondsey, how do you know how much Cellino has spent as I can't find any figure that says how much has been spent on players.

Not sure if I can put website so this clue is cryptic, its on a website that first word is something you would do if back was itchy and second word is where you keep your tools (or beers if your me as I do no diy) of course the website might not be 100% accurate but I trust them and think they know what they are talking about and fees look realistic. nice not see all players in as frees or 60k

{Ed013's Note - Send me the site}

14 Sep 2014 21:24:45
Would take appoint against Bournemouth followed by a win against Huddersfield :)

Antenucci hat trick in their somewhere ;)

Can't see that happening to be honest think Eddie Howe's done well with Bournemouth and I remember going there last year on a Tuesday night and getting hammered, saying that most away games last year we got hammered lol

Aunty Lucy is odds on to get a hat-trick of offsides if he performs as he did v Brum ;(

If we keep the ball well and Silvestri has a good game then were capable of getting something their. Were miles better of than last season, just need to start scoring

Scoring is often the last thing to come. look at under george graham, he sorted defence and we were so poor in attack then next season become a very good exciting team full of goals. similar thing happened at chealsea over last two seasons. keeper looks immense and defence looks much better (was joke at start of season) defence needs to improve a bit more then sure the goals will start coming

14 Sep 2014 18:15:55
Like many on here I'm not laying into players who've arrived recently as it's difficult to tell in such a short time how good or bad they are.
I liken our passing to a kids side in that it's new to this lot & it's going to take time to take the next step "passing forward" at right times or running past a player to open them up a bit. It really is baby steps but it had to be done this way imo. Basics first followed by how to pass with purpose & how to split a defence by passing. True we have no width or pace which we must somehow sort out but I'm hoping for a real 1st team coach quickly to take it on as I don't believe Redders is the right man & if I'm honest I want him back with the accademy. Redders has done well integrating our youth & new guys but think that's where it ends. A top coach would sort out wheat from chaff quickly now and get us playing forward much faster & encourage flair from his midfielders. These players luv Redders but don't we all. We should beat a very poor Brum not scramble a draw & we will get a spanking soon unless we offer a threat going forward as it's all too easy for teams to get that first goal.
This all sounds negative but I do think we've been lucky to get even 1pt so far & had opposition been any good we'd be bottom of league however I believe we have the talent to finish 10th this season and top 3 next season but only with a real top coach

Good post and realistic not all doom and gloom, it will take time and think the right coach will make a huge difference as it is the most important role, just look at palace last season to see that, think there is real potential in the team and that is something we have not had since grayson left, might take a year might click in over the next few games but I think we are and will get there MOT

Slough
IMO one of the best and honests posts I've read this year.
Well done mate not negative just how you feel ;)

14 Sep 2014 13:45:27
I can't really believe how many happy reports are on here. Yesterday was awful- from both sides. We never managed a shot on target until the 2nd half. And those happy about possession - well it's just great watching your side knock balls around 60 yards from the oppositions goal! We need WINGERS. We need PACE. Without that we are going nowhere! This conintental style will not work in the championship. Our wingers were Warnock & Berardi which meant we were playing 2-6-2 for much of the time leaving our c halves 2 on 2 on many occasions. And the opposition haven't won at home for over a year! Let's face it if we are honest we should have lost to Bolton had it not been for Silvestre and had Thomas not missed a sitter of a header in the last minute we would have lost yesterday. It's going to be a long season. The lad Gray that came on for the Brum is a prime example of width and pace. He was the best player on the park for 20mins. Finally we need a MANAGER. I believe in Cellino & what he has done for Leeds already but please bring in an experienced manager and let him get on with it. Judge him by what he does then & let Redders carry on doing his fantastic job with the youngsters. Sorry guys this is just reality and my opinion. By the way the Leeds fans still the best in the world - especially when they were trying to fix the net! MOT. Ps we need to get rid of that kit too and get back to all yellow!

Brum beat Brighton at home earlier on in the season.
It's a new team, give it time before throwing your toys out the pram.

Phil - the reason most of us are positive and happy with yesterday`s performance is straight forward; we have not seen a Leeds team play FOOTBALL for a very very long time and tbh they were pretty good at it.

Things are on the up!

The happy one, MOT

Before we all jump on philin's back I think we have to take stock. philin makes some good valid points and everyone is intitled to an opinion and to vent feelings (if not for the fans there would be no football let alone leeds Utd) didn't see the game sadly but I think what makes us generally happy is while things may not be perfect at the moment everything seems to be going in the right direction the team is younger and looks like it might have a few bits of quality in it. something lacking since grayson left. Think MC still has a lot to do but is going the right way and so hopefully is the club. not great ATM but will be sooner or later (i think we will challegne for play offs this year!) and I am super grumpy but know my football (so I say) so fingers crossed at the moment we have hope something we have not had for a while and something I didn't have a few weeks back

Valley I am not throwing the toys out of the pram. I did that when Bates took over! Lol
And DualA1 - I agree it's great to watch football being played on the deck which it was. However there has to be an end result. But please just imagine you were Billy Sharp for a moment. As a striker would you be happy watching your team play footy 50yds from goal? He never got any service & was totally hacked off. You can't score from there. I just believe we have brought in some nice players but if a manager had done it then he would have added more balance. We need a couple of pacey wide men rather than the glut of central midfielders. And I must say our own boys of Cook &'Mowett were the best on show. I hope it pays off but sadly I don't think it will until we get width & a manager, not with that starting XI anyway. I really hope I am wrong. I must add though that the likes of Montenegro &!Adrayan may improve it somewhat and I agree with posts saying they all do need time which I accept too.
Bermond - thanks for the support. Love reading your posts mate. Keep em coming! Still & always MOT

14 Sep 2014 12:05:39
well smith done well for fulham sent off so ross one goal smith one red cards well done lads

Ffs can we please move on smith and ross have gone and good luck to them please stick to leeds and who is at the club not who has left. anyway David Hockaday.

14 Sep 2014 10:49:11
May as well throw this one in but how is brian deane another ex player doing coaching in Norway.
Stats don't stand alone too bright but its what's he has to work with maybe they are ok taking players he has to work with.Anyone know? Maybe a Norwegian white could answer this for me.

A Norwegian White here.
Deano has done exceptionally well at Sarpsborg, who are a small club with limited resources (smaller than Sandefjord in fact, if anyone remembers the pre season a few years back). He did well to keep them up last season, and has helped plenty of yougsters develop who have since gone to bigger clubs in Norway. I doubt this is what MC is looking for though, but you never know :)
I do think Deano is destined for bigger things somewhere in the future, will maybe get a league 1/2 job in a few years if he hasn't settled down in Norway by then.

MOT! We're passing the ball!

14 Sep 2014 09:47:45
I tend to agree with a lot of comments after Birmingham game, it was actually nice to see us passing the ball, we looked confident at back and playing one touch football. Just need to find the right combo up top. Mowatt cook and sloth looked very good. I have a little more confidence now this season.

14 Sep 2014 11:56:36
Bellusci is a liability I am sorry. I love his spirit but he is a wildcard and you don't need that at centre half. He went to sleep in tracking his man for the goal, nearly put through his own net and sent off / penalty at Watford. This guy isn't a patch on Tom lees who everyone slated. Antenucci is clearly a decent player but I don't see him cutting it in the championship. Well done to redfearn for chucking Austin on in an attacking role as he causes teams trouble when he runs at them. Mowatt, cook, Silvestri, Pearce, sloth and doukare were good

Not a patch on Tom Lees, do me a favour! Bellusci should not be partnered with Pearce as neither should be playing the sweeping role as both are slow. Play Bellusci with a mobile centre back and ask him to attack the ball and you will see a more capable player

14 Sep 2014 16:07:27
Pearce is better at attacking the ball than bellusci and also wins balls in the air. Bellusci is short and can't jump. Agreed he has good anticipation but he has been shown wanting by both Birmingham and Watford attacks already. Pearce did not put a foot wrong yesterday but you would play bellusci ahead of him. Caught napping for the goal, just let his man run off him whilst he was ball watching

Check the stats voodoo they are both 6ft 1inc. Pearce was Ok on saturday but could have easily conceeded two against Bolton due to his lack of pace/reading the game. The point being that Pearce and Bellusci should not be partnered however both are better than timid Tom Lees

Sorry Notts have to agree with Voodoo, I have watched every game this season & Bellusci is a liability & when we come up against the better teams he will be found out

14 Sep 2014 01:05:27
missed the game today as was on set filming and couldn't get out of it. how was we at marking and defesnively in general and did we look like we had some kind of game plan. also must be a mistake people praising ruddy? next I shall be liking Hock. think few have been harsh on sharpe who I still like a lot (will score if given a chance) how are the new boys doing? apart form ajose they look good what I have seen but not seen sloth, adrain or attuinci. also note for Ed001, only watch MOTD so not an expert but crap delph looked quite good, even enjoyed a win over the immortal henderson, good job he is the most important player and not swaruze. liverpool cost me all three of my best today but it did make me chuckle :)

14 Sep 2014 09:28:27
We passed. we moved (no hoofball). 2nd half we were superb & could have won it. Rudy was excellent when he came on as was Doukarra should have took Antenucci off instead of Sharpe that's my only criticism. Think we'll see Adrian more at Elland Rd than away from home but all in all a big improvement we're beginning to look like a football team & the future's bright imo. Loud & proud forever

Defence played well, got caught napping & wrong side of the striker for brums goal. Silvestri had another good game, second half didn't get much to then made a fine save n think warnock cleared it off the line.
Aunty Lucy was 10yds offside around 10 times, a guy with his experience should know better but did show commitment in wanting the ball. Sharp I felt bit sorry for Aunty Lucy never looked for him when In possession and sharp lost interest. I'd have took Lucy off and let Doukaras pace feed sharp.
Austin YES Austin was VERY good in the 25mins he had (don't mind getting slated) Austin-Doukara made the difference. Sloth did ok started Tiring on the hour mark, mowatt-Cook grew in confidence and got better n better as the game went on.
Only criticism we passed the ball well but ended up in our own half with the possession, we need to pass it quicker and penetrate defences instead of going backwards.

Was in Henneseys bar in Brum City Friday night and got told off a few Leeds fans who know Redders MC told him we will have a new coach this week but had NO didn't say who ;)

Bermondsey was filming yesterday, have I missed something or what? Have we a South London thespian in our midst? Or does he make low budget 'naked art' movies for the more discerning audience?

Thanks for the reports and to andy really value your opinion as you clearly know football well and give good valid critque and pluses and negitives. I honestly think things are on the up. and yes we have a cockney thespian in our midst. use to be in west end musicals and at the moment can be seen on the paddy power advert (the one shown all the time in world cup about bloke backing brazil) and rugby world cup promo. don't have the body for naked art videos unfortunatly despite my trying to get into that line of work ;)