Leeds Banter Archive February 12 2016

12 Feb 2016 22:19:07
Anyone on this site of a legal proclivity know if the new PL tv deal may breach competition and markets authority rules on cartels?
I've looked at the CMA website and can't make head nor tail of it.
Mainly due to being both drunk and a bit thick.

Would be good to gauge peoples opinion on this out of curiosity.

12 Feb 2016 23:45:54
Yes? Er no? Er not sure will consult my dictionary to see what the hell you just said lol!

13 Feb 2016 01:14:28
get back to me when you've done that.

{Ed003's Note - It was mentioned somewhere this week,I'll try to find out after the weekend the ins and outs.}

13 Feb 2016 12:54:56
Cheers ed, Now I'm sober my thoughts are that the FL should be looking into mounting some sort of legal challenge to this.

{Ed003's Note - Not sure if they would - that would mean less money to the FL clubs.I think it's more the European clubs miffed about the amount the Premier League clubs are getting}

12 Feb 2016 19:11:05
Does anyone know the timing of the decision on whether MC will be banned again or not? IF MC is banned, and with unrest accelerating in the fan base, there must be a good chance the game will then be up for him. For the long term good of the Club (and, indeed, to help raise standards of ownership in UK football) I say ban him. New owners. please step forward!

12 Feb 2016 20:07:39
you want the owner of your own club banned? seems a little odd to me, what happens if he goes. takes all his money and no one step up to buy the club (which is very very very likely to happen) more administration, more club going into debt, more assest getting sold for peanuts, more religtaion, maybe we will no longer be a club, maybe ken bates will come back

cant make sense of this sorry.

12 Feb 2016 20:27:31
New owners step forward? Who? There doesn't seem to be a queue of potential buyers coming forward! MC as kept the club afloat! All u MC haters surely have to give him credit for that? Without him I doubt there would be a club to sell! No I don't agree with all he has done, but does he really deserve all the crap that certain Leeds fans are throwing at him?

12 Feb 2016 20:35:28
The madness is infectious Bermondsey if we keep reading we will soon see the light 😊.

12 Feb 2016 20:43:55
slowly losing my mind I am wearing a blue top and chanting miiiiiiillllllllllllllllllllllllllllwall no one likes us as we speak, will now go and cut my left ear off and put baby in the mircowave

(my laywers have asked me to make a note that I do not personally endorse putting babies in mircowaves and in fact think this is a morderatly a bad idea and would not suggest doing so. please cook babies responsibly)

12 Feb 2016 16:24:35
I've been reading the Cellino good/ bad posts with interest over the last few days. I don't think it matters either way now.
If what I've read is true that even the club that finish bottom of the Premier League next season will pocket £99m guaranteed (TV, parachute payments etc) then we are destined to stay in this league or lower for ever.
This is why a few championship clubs have spent fortunes this season because they've realised they have to go up this or next season or they will miss out on the gravy train completely.
I think this massive increase in money that Premier League teams are going to receive is going to result in an almost closed shop, where it will be nigh on impossible for relegated Premier League teams not go straight back up again.

{Ed025's Note - its certainly an advantage danum, the gap between the have,s and have nots is getting bigger with every passing season..

12 Feb 2016 17:26:17
Agree Dan to a degree sure it is always difficult against the clubs with the money but it can be done, football is like that and no matter what clubs come down their very best players often leave.

Sure they can afford to buy the best of the rest but I think the nature of the championship will still mean non premier clubs will still have a chance even it it does gets a bit harder.

I mean football would not be football if everything was down to how much cash you have/ best squad always wins etc, will still be lots of variables in football.

Mind you in our case I cannot see us getting near at the mo but things can change quick in football as we all know.

12 Feb 2016 18:18:03
Yeah but £99m.
How the hell can we compete with that? I'm afraid we've missed the boat!

12 Feb 2016 18:19:19
agree it will be harder but possible. know it is bit different but look at bormouth and lecsiter they both have no right being where they are but they are there. with good youth system right manager and couple of good buts anything is possible just might take time.

12 Feb 2016 19:54:03
It's not all about money look at Man City/ United etc how much have they spent and still have issues. Yes it certainly helps but we need stability first. With our house in order then those additional pressures are lifted and we can look toward promotion. I know it's what people want to hear but hey at least we are not bottom and we are not under threat of liquidation. Was t so long ago that the wages weren't being paid! GFH need to go shame someone can't at least buy them out!

12 Feb 2016 20:45:20
we don't need money. cloning that is the answer get some of messi's arguro's, john stones and john lukic's dna one mad scientist and a cloning machine and we will be flying.

12 Feb 2016 14:42:13
I refer to my earlier post saying I was bored of the anti cellini and a few agreed with me but some seem to think I was mocking posters some of the sensitive souls called it bullying can some of the posters on this forum please look at this earlier post and confirm this as the case and if needs be I shall issue an apology.

12 Feb 2016 15:39:58
Don't think your comments can be construed as bullying however I do not think you distinguish between Cellino and Leeds Utd. It is possible to support the Club but not the regime, they are not mutually exclusive.

12 Feb 2016 16:22:33
Agreed Notts everyone is Leeds on here. We have always argued among ourselves and will continue to do so. I was in the ground when a major fight took place over some calling for a managers head, the other side accusing them of not supporting the team. That was over 35 years ago. 1 thing that upsets supporters, is being told they are not true supporters. I want Cellino to go, but this has to be done in the right manner. He has to be given time to find the right buyer. Wanting him to go NOW, could force him into rash action. If he picks up the phone and dials Monaco, we'll all wake up to a re-accuring nightmare. Keep posting Wex! B.O.T (Bantering On Together)

12 Feb 2016 19:11:01
couple of points is your name wex leeds or we x leeds and in you kiss them (as that is how I read it but then I am dyslexic so may have it wrong either way it is now confusing me and making me go bossed eyes)

secondly I found your comments very offensive and think you owe everyone an apology and felt the only way to deal with this was to hire a plane to fly over ER with the banner wexleeds out.

12 Feb 2016 19:43:08
We x Leeds firstly Bermondsey and secondly I've already seen your billboard calling for me to go outside my house and I never intend to offend.

12 Feb 2016 20:09:55
did that go up already? good workman that wasnt meant to happen until next week I shall get one for outside with correct name we x leeds then line underneath no more x's for you.

12 Feb 2016 20:33:31
Always an x for yourself Bermondsey.

12 Feb 2016 20:46:11
thank you one back with interest just don't let the wife know she is clucking for any excuse to divorce me.

12 Feb 2016 23:18:41
Oy BW. Is there no limit to your putting it about a bit?

12 Feb 2016 23:54:34
sorry, firstly sorry for doing this to you and secondly sorry you had to find out this way. it was we x'es fault he keeps flirting and putting kisses in his name, you know what I am like once I have had a few (that is how the mrs won me over)

{Ed003's Note - xxx}

13 Feb 2016 00:50:00
and you too ed 003 i'm a sucker for a bloke who knows his football although in this picture you do look a little hairy even hairier than speedys back) so kisses back at you just don't let speedy find out.

{Ed003's Note - ok secrets safe with me xxx}

13 Feb 2016 10:19:23
Grrrrrr. And by the way I don't have a hairy back just for the record!

12 Feb 2016 12:17:14
Having read today's YEP I see the fans who put up the poster outside ER are planning to fly a plane over ER with a banner saying how unhappy they are, I wonder how Cellino prevent this from happening. will he shoot it down?

I don't always agree with what Cellino has done, one thing for sure all of the negative press that follows MC is damaging the reputation of our great club.

12 Feb 2016 12:49:32
Ha hope they do it for Monday's game as won't be able to see it at night.

All this shit is not going to help the team and I read it was a group of 70 that paid for the advert, people who moan all the time always get the most attention.

My point really is this if MC goes who is he going to sell to (lets face it we are not a good buy, if we were others would have done so over the last few years) .

And would a new owner have more money? Would the moaners stop moaning? to me it just seems that no matter who owns us some people are just going to moan about everything anyway and all this stuff around the team does not help, negative views breeds negative performances and we seem to be more moaning than other fans (don't know if that is true as don't read other teams sites) .

I am not a major fan of MC but from a financial point of view and I would say building a team point of view he is better than Bates (best players not sold on the cheap) and GFH (clears debts more than adds to them) .

whoever did buys us would need deep pockets and we are a high risk financial bet really, if we were a bargain do you not think someone would have snapped us up by now as we have a lot of things going for us on the surface (crowd, brand, one club city etc) .

So yes MC to go but only if we get someone better in otherwise what is the point and it could be worst as it was before he came in.

12 Feb 2016 13:07:56
That's true Shag but who exactly do these fans claim to represent, and how many do they represent? I certainly haven't been consulted and would not have agreed to this method of protest, whatever I thought about MC.

12 Feb 2016 13:54:13
DG. Absolutely spot on mate.

12 Feb 2016 13:56:04
Think this is a little bit scary to be honest. We all know that Cellino works on instinct and would rather work with him and try to look for a buyer, rather than make it clear he should go ASAP. His response is reported to be "I agree". If he feels pushed he may just go for a quick sale which could be anyone.

12 Feb 2016 13:57:17
great point speedy as always and the aptly named voice or reason. I hope MC does shoot the plane down and all of the so called fans who have done this. Makes me laugh people are bit dumb in my opinion. we all complain about the negitive press MC and the club get, so what do a small section or complete morons do. go to the press to release a statement about a poster and a plane that is proper smart hats off to them boys.

i do kinda of hope we get bates back to teach these small minority of fans what real hardship is, as they clearly can not remember being relegated twice, being stuck in league one and being in administration more times than a celibate prostitute.

hats off boys again well done this had made me smile, laugh, roll eyes and clench my fist all at the same time.

12 Feb 2016 20:41:55
Agree with speedy and BW.

12 Feb 2016 09:36:36
Interesting statement from LFU that they were looking at buying GFH shares before the fiasco woth cellino. So why don't they buy them out now? Answers on a postcard please.

12 Feb 2016 13:59:48
dont have postal address so will put on here is it because

a. lfu don't have enough money
b. lfu don't have enough money
c. all of the above?

12 Feb 2016 08:52:31
Just in response to Wexleeds comment about fans who are embarrassed moving on. I respect your opinion (as you should mine) , however despite me saying I feel embarrased, LUFC remains a massive part of my life, as always.

To pick you up on another point, I never stated that I'm anti Cellino, and for that matter would love to see him succeed at the club. It doesn't matter who's in charge though, all I would like is for the owner/ board to be straight with the fans instead of the continuous mixed messages and fulse promises we get.

This is an open forum where fans are invited to share their thoughts and opinions, I'm sorry but if your fed us of hearing the same old stuff, perhaps you should'nt visit the site as much. Also had it not occurred to you that if people keep saying the same things, maybe it's because those views are share by more than just one or two people.

I don't want to cause a problem with anyone but think people should be entitled to their opinion without others mocking them!

MOT.

12 Feb 2016 10:51:23
Agree! Where one sheep goes many more will follow!

12 Feb 2016 11:30:56
Well said Danny, as it would appear that our views are only valid if shared by certain others. Or we are not Leeds fans or have another agenda if we don't agree with Cellino's antics. Truly amazing as most of us don't know Mr Cellino personally or are not privy to his financial involvement with LUFC, so our opinion's are based on what we see or hear him say. We I assume were LUFC supporters before he came here and will be long after he has left, so what is been implied by some who think the one's who ain't in love with the owners actions have another agenda . Please . I just about remember being at school, people like that were called bullies, luckily we ain't kids no more and enjoy freedom of speech? Again Danny well said.

12 Feb 2016 12:17:56
Good points Raggity/ Danny how boring it would be if we all agreed on everything! that's the whole point of a banter forum, that's what makes it interesting is the fans different view points, My thinking has been changed sometimes by seeing a different opinion on a subject, keep up the good work boys, and less mocking people! we are all leeds ain't we? peace brothers MOT B-|.

12 Feb 2016 14:10:05
This forum is called Banter. Some people need to look up what the word means,then return and engage properly with people.

12 Feb 2016 14:10:32
agree everyone should be allowed an opinion and it should be heard. It doesn't have to be respected though (other wise I would have to respect the opinion of the KKK, nazis and even worse Arsenal fans) doesn't mean you should not say them, and doesn't mean you should not have the right to say them, trouble is with any opinion people have the right to disagree, which is the main problem me and MM have in the spoons when asking ladies out back with us, they tend to disagree that is it a bad idea.

i do not agree with transplacney in any buisness I think it is stupid to want or expect it, I have given reasons why and no one yet has come up with any sensible answer to my points or to back up why MC should be honest/ open/ transparent.

I do not agree that things are that bad and in my opinion it shows lack of understanding that problems MC had and background to what bates did and GFH are doing, lack of realism of how bad we were how long it will take (baby steps and all that) and short memory of things being a lot worse than what they are.

To be honest as others have done, what I think is boring/ annoying people (if that is the right word) is the same posts are saying the same thing yet I personally feel when I have asked questioned and riased points they have not been answered but ignored.

With any debate there is counter debate and those who ignore this may bore people and make their points of view look less vaild than they are, which in turn makes it look like a personal hate campaing aginst MC or fans with own personal agenda and not supporting the club as a whole. I am not saying that is the case by any means but that is how it might look.

personally I think a few people on here are well jell of MC because he is rich, can play the guitar, has great hair and is even more handsome than Speedyg x ok I take back the bit about him being better looking than my speedy x.

12 Feb 2016 14:33:36
Danny firstly I never mocked everyone is entitled to their say just some posters here are always negative secondly secondly for those who want rid of cellino I ask who we replace him with and"anyone" is not an answer.