Leeds Banter Archive August 12 2014
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12 Aug 2014 22:58:59
Very happy with the progress cellino is making. I really think we are building a team that could compete seriously this season and then secure promotion next season. I hope there are no last minute hitches on these deals.
Based on the potential signings here is my strongest 11
Gk:Sikvestri
RB: Byram
CB: Pearce
CB: Bellusci
LB: Warnock
CDM: Bianchi
RCM : Murphy
LCM: Bendecic
RW: Ajose
CF: Sharp
LW: Doukara
Morison and smith will have a great impact, cook mowatt, Austin, Tonge and Daeson could also have an impact, cooper, Taylor and White could also have chances to make an impact.
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Taylor for Warnock and Cook for Benedicic for me with Cook playing the bonding role.
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Only warnock I would swap out of that team Baradi showed he can play last night and Taylor as back up or visa versa. Time to ship some out now though
warnock
morrison
hunt
austin
tonge
kenny
white
and just waiting on the other 3 new signings MC said will be in by end of the window. Now who the hell are they going to be?
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13 Aug 2014 12:20:22
I do think that cook should get first team action but he does need to be looked after. Aidy white and tom lees both had a lot of potential and neither have fulfilled it. Cook should get around 20-25 appearances depending on our cup run. He should be eased in to the side not forced in.
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13 Aug 2014 12:22:25
I would definitely sell hunt, tonge, kenny and white. I would only sell morison if a high bid Came in because he is still highly rated in the championship
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12 Aug 2014 22:51:07
If Billy Sharps proposed move to Leeds goes through I would have no hesitation playing him up front with Doukara, both very mobile should compliment each other quite well. And if fit, bring in at least one of the new centre backs and leave wootton on the bench. I just hope Byram stays around now, things could finally be looking up.
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12 Aug 2014 22:43:55
Doukaras second goal tonight was as good a goal as you would see in the premiership! I think He is going to be a great player for us!. Mot.
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12 Aug 2014 22:16:49
He didn't play Byram because he wants to use him on Saturday. Make of that what you will.
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13 Aug 2014 09:57:57
hmm, want to use him saturday, guess it means he was resting him for lge match, that's what I make of it
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12 Aug 2014 22:10:01
Still no Morison tonight?, seems odd as he was playing in pre season yet Hunt on bench. Don't get that at all. Delighted with new signings, sharpe would be good, that will give is options up top. Not getting to excited about tonight though . Borough on Saturday will be the real test of where we are at the moment
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Has a calf strain, apparently.
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12 Aug 2014 23:01:23
Don't know how he manages to strain anything, one of the laziest players I've seen in a leeds shirt and he's up against some pretty stiff competition in that department.
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12 Aug 2014 21:56:22
Berardi's dismissal just put another 4mil on Byram
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12 Aug 2014 21:46:09
Wow! We score goals, a victory, a sending off on debut too and 3 signings in 1 day! It's all happening.
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12 Aug 2014 21:45:16
Well that was a bit better. Need to learn to close a game out but that will hopefully improve with the new defenders. James Gray sounded useful
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12 Aug 2014 21:26:27
So potentially Bellusci, Cooper and Sharp in the space of 24 hours. Give Cellino time rather than judging on one game and I think he will deliver.
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12 Aug 2014 22:37:50
ANDY MOT appreciate your reply to my post, I`m not the best with words but as you appreciate we all share different views about many things. When things are`nt clicking I think why not, I would be surprised if other leeds fans had not thought some of the points I had mentioned.
Anyway today is a different day and after some positive news on the transfer front and tonights win things always look differently. I want what all leeds fans want, decent performances, winning games and eventually promotion to PL.
Cellino is sorting out the financial side which is brilliant, but I do feel niavety exists in the transfer dealings, however if today is anything to go by it would appear Millwall game was a wake up call.
Chuffed to bits with win tonight and the starting line up and formation.
Cheers mate
MOT
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Northumberland
We do have different views mate and that's what makes the site tick, if we ALL agreed with each other it would be boring.
Great post agree with 95% of it but is MC niave in the transfer market or just carefull with his money like a TRUE Yorkshireman ;)
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12 Aug 2014 20:19:25
Doukara opens his account at ER - first of many for him this season I hope.
Come on you Whites
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12 Aug 2014 20:27:34
Make that 2 :-)
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Said other week he was my top scorer for season, don't disappoint doukara!
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He's in my football league dream team
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12 Aug 2014 20:08:23
Doukara assisted by Berardi get in!!
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12 Aug 2014 19:41:32
Poleon on bench tonight so presumably contract not terminated yet. My view is he could be a good player, send him out on loan for a year somewhere he'll get plenty of games then worst case scenario he's not good enough for us but we can get some money for him.
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He's already been out on loan and proved his worth, he needs sticking in the team for a few games and given a chance, rather than given bit parts.
. if he can't cut it fine, but I wish people would stop writing him off and criticising him before he's given that chance.
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Just play him!
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"Just play him!"
It is that easy, unfortunately Hockaday obviously isn't a student of the 'bleeding obvious' nor studied 'common sense' at school.
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Sincere apologies Poleon has (yet again) been given 12 minutes to excel himself.
Why do you bother Hockaday?
Either give him a whole game or let the lad go somewhere he will be wanted?
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Attitude problem well documented by last three coaches
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Leeds4alongtime
What is about Poleon that gets you going because I can't see it. I agree about giving young talented players a chance but sorry to say the lad has little football talent apart from being quick. I don't get any pleasure from slating the boy but I've seen him play and he is now where near championship standard and never will be. And all the talk about him developing is just that. Talk. A poor player cannot be coached to become a good one. Whereas a good player can be coached to become a very good player. Maybe i'm wrong, but tell me his good qualities apart from pace? I will be interested by your answer.
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Sorry Leeds4alongtime I forgot to say that Poleon has been out on loan twice in lower divisions and didn't set the world alight. Sheff Utd and I think Bury and scored maybe once as far as I remember, although it was a great goal. Its easy for you to say play the lad and he deserves his chance and Hockaday and McDermott and Warnock havnt got a clue. But these guys work and have worked with him on the training pitch and i'm pretty sure if he was good enough he would of started more games by now. Maybe you no more than the rest of us. MOT.
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Send the lad out on loan till xmas see what he does we may need him for back up still think he can become a decent player.
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I`m guessing Hunt must run rings around everyone in training and score everytime he touches the ball, cause he gets loads of game time.
Personally I would gauge things the other way round. If you can do it on the pitch in a competitive match then that's more relative than a good training session.
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12 Aug 2014 19:19:26
Bellusci deal done seen the pictures of him signing he is now warming up with the squad on the pitch at ER
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12 Aug 2014 19:05:55
Why oh why wootton starting v Accrington tonight why not killock and why oh why hunt even on the bench still no dawson, mowatt, thompson thought whackaday likes to go with youth let's hope bianchi and cook create chances be nice for doukara and ajose to score at elland rd
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Winning team tonight but not good nough for borough on Sat
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12 Aug 2014 20:05:40
Good to see Charlie Taylor and Cook in the team. I thought Benedicic would have started but put Belusci in for Wootton and a replacement for Tongue and I would be quite happy with that based on current squad.
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Hoping for a positive result tonight, but it's saturday that count's. get in there Leeds!
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12 Aug 2014 17:29:19
ED
As we had a poor performance away on saturday and all the negative woodworms have come out to play any chance of a poll please?
Negative or optimist!
Should cheer us up a bit as we are still down in the dumps from 1 defeat ;)
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{Ed013's Note - Lets do that here by simply replying Negative or Optimist}
Optimist - my glass is always half full!
MM
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Optimist! MOT
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12 Aug 2014 18:21:48
Optimist
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Always optimistic some of the things that have not been addressed before are being now. We will stay up this year and this will show MC what Is really needed for a promotion push for the following year. the prem is coming soon
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12 Aug 2014 18:48:27
optimist,come on you white italian wizards!
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Optimistic and hopefull
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Pissamist. lol
Who's buying the next pint?
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Lifelong Optimist
Well you have to be don't you?
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Nice one Leeds lol
Optimist for me too ;)
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Thanks Andy, does that mean you are offering? lol!
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12 Aug 2014 20:46:52
Optimist for sure MOT
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Seriously we are all optimists or we wouldn't be here would we?
Or maybe we are just plain mad.
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Mad Mick
I'll swap you my empty glass for your half full one any day then.
And when you fill that up I'll swap you back.
Tonight's looking good, a little hope in there.
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4ever optimist MOT
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Think I'll remain a pissamist after that performance - hic.
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Leeds
Be carefull with your next answer, what is your tipple on a sat?
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12 Aug 2014 16:22:59
Hockaday not rallying the troops on LUFC website for Acc Stan game. Does'nt say a lot for his enthusiasm.Gone to ground or out the door already???
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Does he need to rally us on the website, surely that is for the changing room & the players, a good performance will lift the fans.
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12 Aug 2014 16:21:30
LIAM COOPER REPORTEDLY SIGNED
SEE BOTTOM OF REPORT ON LINK
http://thecitytalking.com/content/2014/8/12/leeds-united-unveil-new-away-kit-as-belluscis-flight-lands-safely
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If Cooper has signed then I am really pleased, we have a player who WANTS to play for Leeds, despite the problems getting him 'over the line'
Lets just hope he's given the same opportunity as a certain Peterborough player who claimed he has earn't the right to play for Leeds and walked straight into the team? (No wonder Poleon wants out!)
He has earn't nothing of the kind in any way.
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12 Aug 2014 15:50:23
Are we having a fantasy league this year?
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{Ed013's Note - Anyone fancy taking part in our fantasy football league? If so log into SKY's fantasy football and add your team to the league with this pin 8041792.
I think we are in fantasy land believing Noel Hunt might score this season!
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I think we are in a fantasy world thinking Hunt might do anything at all on a football pitch!
Ed, can we have a poll about how many games Hunt will last before he is 'injured' as it's not going to be long?
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{Ed013's Note - I wouldn't wish injury on a player whether its genuine or Morison type ;-)
Ed - you missed the point, I wouldn't wish injury on anyone either, but certain players seem to get far more than most players, if you get my meaning?
Morrison (and Hunt) especially.
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{Ed013's Note - I know that mate, but whether he pulls up for a tactical injury or not I really wouldn't want to conduct a poll on that. If I was a betting man I would put a lot of cash on that Morison did the same on Saturday against Millwall}
The odds wouldn't be too good ED ;(
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{Ed013's Note - I never had any luck with odds}
12 Aug 2014 14:57:03
If Poleon has gone let's move McDaid up to the squad to take his place I think he is better anyway.
Tonight drop Wooton and play Austin in there see if that stops him running around like a headless chicken four across the middle with smith and Morrison up front, any thoughts guys :o)
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Poleons gone in deal for liam cooper at chesterfield
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Why is Poleon on the bench for tonight's game then?
Why on earth would he go to Chesterfield for any reason whatsoever?
Apologies if you know something nobody else does, but if so your source would be nice to know?
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12 Aug 2014 14:13:31
Do u think Leeds will ever sign a player we know again because the players we have bought are no good and want sending back
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What difference does that make wether you know them or not?, so long as their up to the job, we've nowhere near finished recruiting yet so why not wait until all the new signings are made, give them time to settle then see how we perform, were in a better position now than we have been for years, so let's get behind, Cellino, Hockaday and the lads and MOT.
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12 Aug 2014 13:21:53
What a signing, a relegated player from serie b, yippee.
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Yeah tell me about it! Over a 100 career appearances in serie a/b and 10 for the italian u21's and only 24 . Shocking
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Give the lad a chance.
Caulker & Medel are relegated players from the premier league but you wouldn't have said no to either of them.
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12 Aug 2014 12:48:19
Don't slate Hockaday
It has been one Game.
Hockaday is an excellent coach as is here to develop and improve the players
Look at the Dundee United game look at what he is capable of
He is Devout and Hard working and wants us to achieve
He has coaching experience in the Championship
There will be no more hoofball
Look what more renown Championship managers done like Neil Warnock and Brian McDermott
Massimo Cellino Knows what he is doing
Cellino knows what he is doing
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I agree Speedo. I honestly don't know why so many people have us relegated after one game! Yes, I believe we were poor against Millwall but you tell me a team that won't play poor in at least one game this season and I'll tell you who will win the league. I posted previously about Crystal Palace in 12/13 season. lost their first three games and still got promoted. I'd dread to see the reaction on here if we lost our first three!
I believe we will soon start going in the right direction and will add to our squad before transfer deadline. We will be stronger than last season and not relegated.
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And. 1, 2, 3, back in the room!
Sorry Speedo, couldn't resist
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We'll never be happy Mick. I agree we won't get relegated and I think we'll finish mid table, but hopefully push on next season and get near the top 6. I think the running of the club his MC'S priority this season. Hopefully pick up a couple of gems who may make us a harder team to beat. It's not ideal, as a season ticket holder I pay my money to be entertained and there hasn't been much of that over the past 4 seasons. Here's to the next 4 being successful.
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Yeah you're right JT but at least we have a chairman willing to invest and not bleed us dry. I believe Cellino's agenda isn't purely to use LUFC as a cash cow as with previous administrations and genuinely think this guy is a breath of fresh air when you consider Bates and GFH and is too proud to f**k this one up. It will be a bumpy ride but we'll get there. MOT!
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I totally agree that Cellino has Leeds United's interest at heart and it's a breath of fresh air after all the MGB's (that's money grabbing ba**ards to you non 'contractor' types). (Ps I am a contractor, no insult meant!)
However, given Cellino's record for hiring and firing coaches, you do have to wonder when he is going to find one he 'likes' enough to employ for any length of time?
I certainly don't think Hockaway is the 'chosen one'.
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12 Aug 2014 10:09:30
Opinions on new away kit then? I think it looks nice a neat. By far Better than the brown sugar one last season. I can remember we had similar colours to this new one on an old away kit made by nike. My grab one of these ones
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Love it!
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Nice kit I love it anyway!
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Lacks imagination.
Macron are rubbish.
Anybody could have come up with that design!
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Will look the business under a shell suit
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I brought a t shirt just like it from Burtons a few years ago. Badge should be yellow, intact the whole kit should. Can't wait for macron to go. Brought every away kit since 2003 but didn't buy the last one and I won't go for this one neither :(
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12 Aug 2014 10:03:30
I'm fed up of being fed up.
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Well i'm fed up about you being fed up about being fed up!
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Aw sorry that you're fed up that I am fed up of being fed up. That has made me REALLY fed up
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Well let's hope you won't be even more fed up tomorrow, because that will make me fed up too
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Well if I'm more fed up tomorrow and you're fed up, I hope Eds don't get fed up of us being fed up.
What do you say ED?
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{Ed013's Note - I'm fed up}
Thanks posters. You've cheered me up. Not fed up anymore
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Made in
Youve just closed the post lol
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12 Aug 2014 09:26:15
Please tell me if I'm wrong - but I'm VERY confused.
Apparently The Hock is going to REST several of the 'first team' tonight as they have a long season ahead, and he's just going to put out a team good enough to beat Accrington.
I have 2 questions I need help with:
1 - on current performances, wouldn't the team just good enough to beat Accrington, be our best 11? and
2 - wtf have they been doing that they need a rest from?
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12 Aug 2014 10:57:46
Hockerday = JokeaDay
It's Laughable the stupidity of that statement!
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Speedy
It depends which way you read into REST!
Did he say the players need a rest or he's resting them?
Id rather have fresh players to try and get 3 points against boro than another egg cup game.
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True Andy of course - though I would hope anyone who played tonight could still be fresh on Saturday
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Wat! U expect more than one game a week for their thousands of pounds. Bloody slave driver u r!
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12 Aug 2014 08:29:29
Poleon set for the off but come on Leeds who would want to play under hock the co. No one in the right mind Leeds are becoming a joke and I think they will lose a lot of support if they don't sort it out # MOT
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Great game for Berardi, Benedicic and Bianchi tonight. Will give them a good 90 minutes to settle into a home game before Saturday.
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He doesn't know what his best 11 is so how can he say he's resting them. ridiculous. sooner we get rid of him the better for all, we should have snapped Glen Hoddle up.
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12 Aug 2014 06:45:13
After one game i'm really confused.
So much wrong with millwall game!
Lets see what changes in next two games!
Lots of things to do with mc and hock are not panning out as I expected.
Gonna hold off doom and gloom and winge until a pattern forms.
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I agree but what's he going to change?
Hock as coach can only play the players given to him, honestly think this is why he was set on EASY scape goat that costs peanuts to get rid of.
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We are all confused with the team selection Ausman and let's hope this changes. I mentioned in an earlier post that Palace lost their first three games in 12/13 season and went on to get promoted via play-offs. I can't understand people saying we are going to go down after one game it's ridiculous and before anyone says "I was at the game and you weren't blah blah" I accept we were poor but every team can have an off day and we'll have plenty more this season, no doubt but we won't go down!
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I agree with bermondsay. He picked a crap starting 11 or at least 7 crap starters and didn't gave a clue tactically
Taking into account suspensions and hesitancy to blood youth I will suck and see
Recent comments about resting his starting 11 for accrington game make sucking a bit harder!
Bugger. That came out all wrong! Lol!
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