Leeds Banter Archive January 11 2014

 

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11 Jan 2014 23:42:18
We all laugh but get brown back in that team, least he's got heart. And diouf, these new signings may well be a lot quicker than him but what use is that without a brain(see aidy white). Byram also should be 1st name on teamsheet. And finally can you lot help me clear an argument please. was McDermott ever reading manager?and did he take them up?

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11 Jan 2014 23:39:18
My honest opinion I don't think the players give a toss about the fans after the boos last week although they were deserved, also maybe after that McDermott has maybe lost the respect of the players after making them face it, they maybe see it as him publically humiliating them.they should stand on terraces and watch the crap.

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{Ed013's Note - End of the day mate, apart from it being night, they get paid their wages so win, lose or draw they go home with their cash! Only the dedicated will be hurting}

11 Jan 2014 23:38:24
On a plus side
At least Norwich won't be interested in any of this shower of rubbish

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{Ed013's Note - Don't count your chickens. I am hearing that Michael Brown is just what they need}

11 Jan 2014 23:21:42
Let's lay off McDermott. He inherited a squad that was heading towards relegation last year. With little funds available, no manager in the world could turn us into promotion challengers. And I don't blame him for playing Stewart and kebe today. Was he supposed to stick with the same garbage that had played the lard few weeks. They will turn out to be good signings and lead us into the play offs.!

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No they won't!

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12 Jan 2014 00:25:11
Sorry do not agree. As manager he has had time to develop a team that can at least pass the ball, tackle and motivate a team that will give 100% -that's what he is paid for - watch Gus Poyet and what he does with Sunderland! I am beginning to wish we had held out for him. BMD your days are numbered! I honestly pray that you prove me wrong and you can sort it! Madness throwing the newbies in on day two! The fact he did that worries me!

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Gus inherited a completely different squad at. Sunderland BMD had when he stared here, the quality of players was much higher, plus he had funds available

Lay off BMD, we won't go up if the fans ain't getting behind the players and manager so let's all MOT

TsG

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12 Jan 2014 06:10:03
He inherited a squad good enough to get a point at Hillsborough!

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11 Jan 2014 23:06:29
{Ed013 - Ladies and Gentlemen, Leeds United fans of all ages, after a rubbish result you took time to read and comment on my blog on the blog/poll page. I really appreciate it, negative and positive, we live, breath and love Leeds United. Thank you MOT}

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11 Jan 2014 22:59:06
For the last few years we have 'Made Do' with mediocrity both with management & players. There comes a time when this is no longer acceptable. That time is NOW! Oh for a Vinny, Batts, Strach, Smiffy please

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{Ed013's Note - Fully agree mate, when I spoke with Vinny before the season started, the passion in that man for this club was unreal. Come on Leeds, sort it out}

I think this takeover thing is unsettling the players, same thing happened last year, all of a sudden some of the players don't know whether they are staying or going they have been training and getting used to each other well before the rumors on investment started and were doing better, grafting and grinding out results before.

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11 Jan 2014 22:53:23
2 things went wrong today the first half formation 3-4-3 and then Smith sent off

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{Ed013's Note - And me turning up ;-)

4-4-2 BmD. Do it now.

Teach the two banks of 4 to defend as a units a unit and the tide will turn.

And don't ever play two wingers again, whatever formation without a striker with the tools to capitalise from it.

If you're not playing a guy with aerial ability then tweek your tactics and allow your wide men to cut in.

Also. Brown is one of the best defensive mid in the division. Stick him in next to Mowett or Murphy and just tell him to sit and play it simple.

Football's easy when you know the game. The question I'm asking is. "Do you know the game BmD" because tactically you seem inept.

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11 Jan 2014 22:48:18
Typical. We sign Stewart Huddersfield sign wells. It's sad because Huddersfield have more ambition than leeds. And now we can't reverse Stewarts signing and I can see him being more deadwood or at most a sub in an actual promotion contending side if we are in the future. It makes me sad to see us less capable than other average teams

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Promotion contending? Are you serious mate, we're at least two seasons away from that! We are absolute garbage!

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{Ed013's Note - I think next season is the one, many players out of contract and no excuses}

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Agree not this year possibly next but in giving it the one after. Building takes time. I'm sick of waiting, watching cr** but good things and all that. WE ARE LEEDS
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11 Jan 2014 22:45:35
Is it just me or was zaliukas just playing for his contract now he's got it he doesn't give a rubbish, because he will continue to pick up his wage every week.

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Just you. he's been great apart from today and now everyone thinks he's garbage, get a grip

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12 Jan 2014 06:13:24
And last week. Oh and out jumped by halford at forest. ER and fairly rubbish against Blackburn!

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11 Jan 2014 22:37:13
I think most sensible fans have summed up today's performance pretty well even though it wasn't hard my dog described them all when asking for a biscuit! But just thought I'd add my bit too, I still think Brian is the right man for the job, up until recently he'd been getting a lot more out of an ordinary team than most would and have done and he'd managed to nearly stop all the bickering and bull and get fans, players, staff and board looking in the right direction BUT I think just recently he's looked like he's chasing shadows, strange formations, strange "non" substitutions, reverting back to old warnock tactics and finally that shambles today, now it wasn't his fault alone but like a fan said earlier wing backs and wingers? Very strange, like I say it seems like he's chasing formations till he hits on one that works like he did with the 3-5-2. I personally think he needs to have a sit down and just go back to basics instead of trying to be too clever. And finally what I feel is puzzling me a lot why on earth can he still keep byram on the bench, does he not rate him (if so then he deserves the chop) does he not think he's fit, or is he tactically waiting till the window shuts so no bids come in. Think we all know now we do not have a good enough squad for play offs (I knew this early on) but were also to good to go down. On a final plus point I do believe he will get it right and well get out of this slump

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In my opinion mate at a guess I think that Byram may still be being protected from a serious injury to his hip, an injury from what he can't overdo it from

The lad is obviously good enough as Macdermott stated when he first came when there was speculation that he wasnt for sale.

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11 Jan 2014 22:28:32
Bring back green norris wornock diouf varney brown all is forgiven . Am just lost for words . Where doo we go from here??

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{Ed013's Note - I was just thinking the same, what a difference Neil Warnock would make}

Hope that's a joke; don't wish for any warnock side - check his record of goals conceded; 3 games to get it back on even keel or sack BMD

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11 Jan 2014 22:27:29
I am absolutely gobsmacked too guys but how many of you were honestly ecstatic when we signed Kebe and were praising McD when we were on our good little run? The majority I'm guessing.

A case of swings and roundabouts?

MOT

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11 Jan 2014 21:56:14
I believe BMd has lost the dressing room. Bring back George Graham.

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11 Jan 2014 22:13:59
How so when he signed Noel" he's great in the dressing room" hunt?

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11 Jan 2014 22:36:52
Hi bmd here! So it seems know I've lost the dressing room which i'd have to say is my worse day in football. I've lost to most things before but I don't think I've lost to a dressing room. No no I did loose to a dressing room the years I got promoted at reading. Have I mentioned that before that I got to a pkay off final and the following season I got promotion with reading.Thats why I know i'm a good manager and everything that's going wrong here is not my fault because I got promotion at reading. Thank you bmd. P.s I got promotion at reading!

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{Ed013's Note - I got promotion to reading too, it was a Kindle at Christmas}

11 Jan 2014 21:40:17
Today's game against Sheffield we'd was by far the worst team performance by a leeds team I can remember.
Owners should seriously think about having the teams weekly wages donated to Jimmy's hospital.
But we can't blame BMD he put the team out he thought should beat the we'd, the team are a total disgrace.

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11 Jan 2014 21:38:40
I've been working with my team for just over half a season and we did quite well to begin with but we have just struggled of late, I bought 2 players that were not good enough for the bottom half of the premiership and my mind said throw them into a game with players that they have never played with before after training 2 days with them. I thought I was a very good manager after getting a cheap club into the premiership after going on an amazing run with a team I inherited from Mr.Coppell who turns out to be a better football mind than myself, but as always we forget that and move on like we do every f*****g week, carry on mr.haigh and give me enough money to buy some kid who ain't good enough or I will look for someone I scouted 7 years ago who I got lucky with for a couple of seasons, it's not as if there are managers out there who know how to play football in the right way, eh Mr.Dyche, but it's ok let's forget the past eh david.

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11 Jan 2014 21:25:52
Main points after today:

- The whole team was appalling today but Zaliukas was another level of rubbish. The individual errors he made amounted to double figures in the end. That little backwards flick and his miscontrol for their 6th were laughable. He needs to regain the form he had when he first came. I hope he doesn't think securing a new contract means he can sit back and do sod all.
- Although Austin can be outstanding on occasion, the number of games where he is absolutely anonymous means he shouldn't be a regular fixture in the team. New CM required.
- Mowatt has obvious quality but looked poor today. I'm wandering if we've thrown him in at the deep end too early. Can't afford to send him out on loan IMO, there's a lack of quality as it is.
- System didn't work and team selection was poor. Wing backs and wingers, what's that about? Go 442 and replace Peltier and Pugh with Byram and Warnock respectively. Brian tried to change it, but Smith's stupid sending off (which was a red card) scuppered any plan.
- You can't judge the 2 new signings on today's performances. Give them time and they'll come good and push us on.
- STICK WITH THE MANAGER. He's the man. I know he can take us to where we belong.
- Fans were fantastic as usual.

MOT

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I agree with most of this post. For me Austin is a headless chicken that BMD has hung round his neck, he must bight the bullet and drop him. He was awful against Blackburn and just does not even get close to Brown as a defensive midfielder. This match was men against boys and we had too many boys on the pitch, I cannot understanmd BmD's recent selections - Rochdale was a good time to rest McCormack and others and play brown, Tongue etc.
Today why was Smith not on from the start, with Wed players all being big B. tds we need some height agaist their defence and we needed to keep the ball on the ground and play a passing game. Instead we hoofed the ball into the air all game just like Warnock taught them, all sense of ball play was gone as we returned to the bad old days. Either the players ignore their tactics or they are given the right tactics. I still believe in McD but the clock will be counting down if results don't improve!

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11 Jan 2014 21:18:30
Would bring back white and morrison asap.They are better than what we have.

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Rubbish, that would finally kill us off

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11 Jan 2014 21:16:59
When the managers job is vacant I might apply for it.After all some of the best managers were not good players or even players.Some people can see were others are blind.Unfortunately Brian is blind, even with his glasses on.He is out of his depth.It will take a special man and lots of money to restore pride and promotion.This man has not come yet but will eventually.

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Nice looking d&g glasses at that!

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11 Jan 2014 20:49:22
Ok. there's no denying today was a shambles but no rant from me, look at where we're at, we have a team with a massive name which right now is struggling with change mostly change that hasn't, t happened yet and is all talk. that talk from forums to papers and beyond are telling most of the players week after week they are not good enough and it's time to step up to a better breed of player , some of the players have been constantly slated as being crap . useless. and worse and there time will soon be up . Players with the best of will in a white shirt under those conditions are going to lose form, right now bmd s job is harder than ever and nearly impossible to keep hold of the dressing room when looking to get rid of a lot of players . Today was everyone's reality check, it. will. take. time.

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11 Jan 2014 21:15:49
Wells scores the winner for town less than 24h after signing for the club.that says it all really

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11 Jan 2014 20:22:23
Haven't had a drink since New Years Day and thought I was doing ok, Well that performance today has got me reaching for the brandy bottle.

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{Ed013's Note - I have now fell off the boat mate, Leeds can drive anyone into alcoholism!}

I've fallen off the wagon with a bump too ed!

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I just started smoking again after a 15 year abstinence

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{Ed013's Note - Yeah I am on the Absinthe now mate}

Absinthe is wormwood. End of world stuff. David Haigh needs to get check book out. Only Dorrans Bridcutt Mills and Becchio or players of that ilk will do. Major own goal not signing Wells. He will go to a premier league team in 2 years and the Terriers will have made themselves a nice 6 million profit.

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11 Jan 2014 20:18:09
How much more must we be made to suffer? For all my sin's must I be so tortured by the team I love! Surely I can't have been so evil to deserve this. I truly thought the thrashing's where behind us, what a fool I am. Who I really feel for is my mate who is Leeds, and the rest of his family are Wendies, how can he live with that! Hope those over paid over rated player's are enjoying their night, while we all suffer utter humilliation! MOT MY ARSE

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I work in Sheffield, I think Monday's going to be a sicky

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11 Jan 2014 20:15:46
In my opinion divine punishment for Aaron Cawley's actions a year ago

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11 Jan 2014 19:57:32
Need new players, not sure about manager. Get shut of the horrible gold away kit

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11 Jan 2014 19:54:18
People are obsessed with formations. If defenders don't do their jobs you going to be bang in trouble. Never seen a Leeds team defend so bad. Apart from Pearce they were shambolic. Lees is getting worse by the game for last 18 months and what's happened to Zaliukas recently?! In the space of less than 24 hours fans have gone from excitment at new signings to here we go again. This is going to be a hard slump to get out of and i'm not sure we got enough (or any) leaders to to do such. My team for Leicester. Kenny Byram Pugh Pearce Zaliukas Murphy Green Mohatt Diouf McCormack Kebe. MOT.

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I think Brian was a bit brainless to start the 2 new wingers. We haven't had a winger for a long time and to then go with the two was asking for trouble. It simply wasnt a system we were used to. Should have went with one for starters. For me he most dissapointing thing was the first half. How many times did we see Leeds players on the ball with absolutely no support and no options to pass to. At the moment we seen bereft of any tactics or system. Matt deserved to be sent off and should hang his head. It was plain stupid and there was only going to be one result thereafter. We now need to put a massive effort in for the next game to stop the rot.
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11 Jan 2014 19:49:36
i know it was a terrible result guys and I just wanted to go on my knee and cry but I think we, us fans need to stay together cause if we don't then the team falls even more. city will be a hard game and I think we should go and fill it to way over 30,000 not because the players deserve the support after today but as if any play starts rising its because after a terrible result, seeing so much support still will help make the team rise. I know I get stick for this post but I am going to march on, now will you march on with me? together we are the best fans in the world. I know I have no right to fill the elland road but its just I hope you will. to all the legends of leeds united please be with us againt city. thank you all for showing so much support this season

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11 Jan 2014 19:48:06
whose for eddie gray to be appointed director of football to give much needed advice to brian mc. to advise him not to play a shambolic 3-4-3 formation that led to us being embarassed by rochdale for him to then play it again. the first half is where we lost the game. it didn't work against rochdale so why would it change. we bring in two wingers and play without a target man to put crosses into. ross isn't going to win headers. we started the season with him in midfield now he is a lone striker. david haigh has done a magnificent job but isn't a football man so won't question brian on selection. whereas eddie gray would. gray would also probably see better players come into the club because i'm yet to be convinced by any of his signings. just a thought.

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11 Jan 2014 19:36:10
Gotta move on - obviously, what else can you do? At least in the Championship a mini run will get you up there, and it's impossible to get worse than Rochdale & Wednesday. Absolutely everything points to a massive Leeds defeat against Leicester, so get down the bookies and back leeds - you know what we're like!
First time question on tactics from me, what the fook was that line up!?
I didn't get to see the game or on the box (dress rehearsal for a play) but the line up seemed brand new, disjointed, god not the right line up for a yorkshire derby against wendy! What's needed now is a back to basics as mcd says, but only to some degree - oddly enough, I think what we really need in the immediate short term is Mr Brown back in the centre, better to have guaranteed average than to be ridiculed and embarrassed - certainly not the long term answer but just to steady the ship and prepare it to at least attempt to sail again; opinions please?

4-4-2

GK: Kenny
RB: Byram
CRB: Lees
CLB: Pearce
LB: Warnock
RW: Kebe
CRM: Mowatt
CLM: Brown
LW: Stewart
CF: McCormack
CF: Smith

Diouf to come off the bench when necessary?

Surely this fits both present crisis and potential to improve?

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Zaliukas over lees any day of the week

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Mowatt not good enough yet leave him in this team you will destroy him, that's if we ant already have!

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11 Jan 2014 19:34:55
Oh and one more thing, Jason Pearce pulling the tag off his shirt? Is if normal for match day strips to come straight from the club shop?

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{Ed013's Note - That was funny, but unfortunately the rest of the game wasn't!}

Must be ill prepared team rushing out f changing rooms

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That was the most entertaining bit of the match

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11 Jan 2014 19:22:20
BMD told us at the start of the season that he wanted us to play some of the best football in the championship well he has proved that he has no idea of how to play football, his tactics are terrible he leaves subs until too late or not at all, he's had enough time vto get us playing but he can't.his 3-4-3 system doesn't work his signings are very poor, we don't want another load of deadwood clogging up the wage bill for years again, get in MK don's manager he will get us playing proper football, and we need more investment, so BMD [cl;ueless] time to go, mot

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When will the owners realise that until we get game changing quality players in the squad nothing will change and they can forget about the Prem. No more loans No more hasbeens. MOT

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Brian if you are reading this post do the honourable thing and walk

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11 Jan 2014 19:03:46
{Ed013's Note - Fellow Leeds fans, if you get a spare few minutes please have a read of my bog on today's disastrous performance and feel free to agree or disagree with me. It is on the Blog/Polls page. Thanks in advance. MOT}

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11 Jan 2014 18:39:29
It's the same every year. Once we get into the top 6 with a decent points tally by Christmas we go on a losing run till March. I saw all the games over the last Christmas and new Year. That was dire too. When there is a sniff of relegation about March time we put a few results together and finish mid-table ish. The players keep their jobs, as they would not be kept on in the premiership, and the fans are relieved that they have stayed up. Job done. Manager might go but players just carry on. Don't know how you change that mentality. Just look at what USUALLY happens when a player gets a new contract their performances go out of the window. See Zalukis, Mowett and a host of players before them. Manager: Poor signings, wrong tactics can't motivate the players. Players don't give a stuff for the most part. Was the same for Grayson and Mccallister. The players stopped playing and the manager went. Its too cosy at the moment and the players are happy to stay where they are in the league. The pattern has been set IMO.

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The players just don't get it, Vinnie Jones was no Bremner but he new what wearing that shirt meant to the fans, I've been watching Leeds since 1977 and I say this squad is the most unbalanced I can remember, running around with no leadership and tactically inept.All comes down to management incompetance we were clueless today from KO, Pugh and Peltier wing backs you have to be joking they can't hardly run, the 3 CB didn't have a clue what they were meant to be doing they were that bad it was embarrassing, Zakulias even back heeled it in his own area without any knowledge of anyone behind him it was just mad panic throughout, Austin and Mowatt were totally outclassed by an average Wed midfield, and the new pair of loanees gave every reason why they're parent clubs don't want them, only Ross came out with a creditable effort at least he ran his socks off, McDermott us asking players to perform in positions that they are not capable of doing and if it continues against Leciester we'll get mauled and Mcdermott will get the bullet.

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11 Jan 2014 18:08:45
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't angry, worried and upset by that performance.

Worse still is I can see a pattern developing, everyone moaned about Warnock bringing in rejects but McDermott is relying on players who have done it for him in the past, both Hunt & Kebe, neither I believe will be good enough now for what we need. Yes Kebe deserves at least a chance, Hunt on the other hand was poor before he got injured.

This is no different to when Warnock was in charge, still bloody hoofball, the players we have signed are not game changers, so big deal, we have wingers, what's the point of wingers with no quality elsewhere.

Not only do us as fans deserve better but Ross does too, I hate to say it but he is too good for our current team, start getting players in or he'll be gone come summer.

No more doing it on the cheap, we need to buy real quality rit now.

Also, as good as McDermott may be in some aspects as a manager/coach his tactitional knowledge is awful, who in their right mind plays 2 wingers (who have only been with the squad a day at the most) then play Ross as a lone striker, absolutely clueless.

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11 Jan 2014 18:03:36
40+ Years a Leeds fan and I am struggling to think of a time that I have been more disappointed - What is going on? I hope the team, management and owners (potential owners) read these comments - Today you were a F*****G disgrace, lack of quality, desire, passion EFFORT (Squad is tired MY ARSE) - you all praise the wonderful support of the fans and rightly so, 30,000+ gates at home fantastical away following. I would hate to think where this once fantastic club would be today if the supporters put in the same efforts as the shower of S**T today.

Off the pitch we have been used to bulls**t from years of abuse in the bates era, even now we are told that finance is available during the transfer window, Thus far TWO loans (I know about wages and Stuart being a loan due to a technicality - This club has bigger gates than most Premiership clubs and potential beyond this yet we can't afford to buy a player like Wells from under the noses of the dog botherers (oh he managed to score on his debut)

Really disappointed after last weeks shambles but today (Wonder where BMD ranks this if last week was his lowest point ever)

Still LEEDS till I die but my god it hurts sometimes

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I don't think I have seen a performance that bad and lacking in pasion for along time allways believed that if a manager shows passion on the side lines his team will follow suit

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I think the above sums up pretty much every fans thoughts at the moment it is really tough being a Leeds fan most of the time, but of course we will keep on supporting them and can only hope something changes.

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11 Jan 2014 17:43:25
Awful performance today, Why would Matt Smith do that when he knew that we were behind, maybe he got angry but you shouldn't do that. 2 signings from thirsday and Friday both start, Both of them won't have learnt the playing style, players and may not be match fit. We should go and risk it and try and get Steve Holland off Chelsea, Other Jose Mourinho assistants have been very good so what can we lose.

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Is BMD any better than Warnock / Grayson / Blackwell / McCallister / Wise. The answer is simple, each manager has had best players sold and replaced by mediocrity. We could sack BMD and replace with 'who-ever' but unless major investment in quality players nothing will change. With each manager change we hope he can turn a team of 'pig ears' into 'silk purses' . Mourino, Ferguson, Wenger could do nothing with this current squad they are just average / ordinary / lower league quality.

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11 Jan 2014 17:40:53
Last week Brian McDermott said it was his worse moment in football! Wats he trying to do surpass it every week! Total disgrace he's lost the dressing room Players seem to do there own think! Taxi for Brian!

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11 Jan 2014 17:32:46
Being a lifelong Leeds fan but now working in Reading, I was happy when we appointed BMD as our manager after Neil Warnock's farce. However the Reading fans down here were all telling me he was a really nice guy but totally clueless. They said he inherited a great side at Reading from Coppell and they would have got promotion anyway but that the reality was he had favourite players, wouldn't drop them and was tactically inept with formations, selections and ssubsitutions. He was a good scout but not a manager they said. sadly I think they were right!

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11 Jan 2014 17:27:34
Who signs 2 players on Friday and has them both in the starting line up the next day? For me that's a bit desperate and as soon as I saw the line up I was surprised particularly Kebe who's clearly not match fit.

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Shocking.unfit, unable to put 2 passes together, hoof and hope. More holes in Leeds defence than a teabag.shows what bmcd thinks off his team to put 2 newbies in without any time to gel with their new team mates or even being fit.
Byram wooton Pearce warnock
ariyibi brown diouf(our best player last yr) Stewart
McCormack Smith

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11 Jan 2014 17:25:20
Years of under investment. We need more than just a couple of wingers. Ball winner central midfield, playmaker, descent forward, commanding centre back. We need 10 million investing now. Get the players in now go for it. Even if we don't get promoted this season the players get time to become a team for next season. Mcd won't go, changing manager all the time not the answer.

On a positive note, Ross always gives 100% and has the balls to apologise on twitter to the fans. Well done Ross

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11 Jan 2014 18:14:18
Agree completely. keeping the manager is key let him build his team and then watch the results. For me Austin has to go or at least not be captain and then get the wingers fit so they can run at defenses as the pace of Stewart of Kebe when fit will scare championship defenders

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11 Jan 2014 17:22:19
Worst performance in a week!! Loss to Harrogate tell tale sign. Brian, time to go!

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11 Jan 2014 17:17:49
Grayson's league one team 10 times better than this miss mash

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We can thank Master Bates for dismantling that team, the potential of that side was excellent, couple more quality signings and we would be in the premier league now, once again were a million miles away, very poor Leeds Uited team now, on the past few showings were among the poorest sides in this division, and the queation must be asked, could Mac bring the players in we need to succeed if given a few million?, I personally doubt it.

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11 Jan 2014 17:17:19
Fire Brian. They don't want to play for him anymore. Bring back George Graham.

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{Ed013's Note - I would give Lucas the Kop cat a go}

Or how about him behind the bar in NE UPPER.

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11 Jan 2014 17:05:07
Keep checking the website for an official apology! There should be one by every member of that playing squad aswell as the manager!

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11 Jan 2014 17:00:30
Anyone with any desire and passion will always beat us we haven't battled for years Think players end up at leeds think wow I've gone as high as I can go in my career and stagnate

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11 Jan 2014 16:33:52
Austin is not a captain, its affecting his game, either give it to pearce or bring brown in and sit him in front of a 'back 4' and give him it at least he'l get them going.343 clearly does not work, you don't need to have coaching badges to see this, playing a right and left back in right and left midfield does not work, that's why enland don't play cole down the problem left side of midfield.playing 3 at the back can be positive but you need cafu and carlos and a ball playing centre back.keep astin where he sshould be defensive midfield, we needed wingers so play them on the wing and and put the guy who needs the service from the start, the guy whos 6ft 4 and has been crying out for somebody who will cross the ball.and mccormack will feed off him, like when we had chapman and numerous players alongside him, its common sense what needs to be done, look at previous teams who have gained promotion, yhey play football but also have physical presence, we need a big strong defender(even someone like him for wednesday which shows there are some about and a strong experienced midfielder to bring murphy and mowats game on snd talk to them!its so obvious why can mcdermot not see this?grayson could but he didn't have cash, warnock did but he'd didn't have cash or time, just a load of freebies!grayson built best leeds side for years then was made to dismantle it!that kebe is not a leeds player, no better winger than byram!stewart looks quick and nippy and in a good strong experienced team will prob be sound

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Yes and Why didn't we go for Wells? He is better and younger than Kebe. Another season down the pan. We need young hungry Quality players. MOT.

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11 Jan 2014 16:29:05
Let's get one thing straight any one who know s anything about football wouldn't play 2 wingers with only Ross up top kept convincing my self bmd was the man to take us forward but he has to go. We need someone to take bull by the horns and ruffle some feathers. One thing Il never get my head around is why we swooped bechio for Morrison For me if fit and given more time and was proven at this level and replace him with smith this was a major mistake and we should have known he was rubbish then suppose this is a rant but blame the mrs she never listens or knows nothing about football and she just said leeds are rubbish and they have been for 10 years I just said yes your right I would never admit that but there u are well pissed off today leeds fan 44 years

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11 Jan 2014 16:10:30
Leeds man of the match definately Luke Varney! Can't see he made any critical mistakes at the bench!

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{Ed013's Note - That's debatable, I think he tripped on a blade of grass}

Nice to see there's always a lighter side. God knows we need it with weeks like this.

Mr Happy

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11 Jan 2014 15:58:58
B McD "we need to get back to basics". How about showing them how to play football.

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Redmond Johnson bullied kebe all afternoon and set the tone for us to get bullied all over the pitch. Smith tried to give Johnson a taste of his own and got sent off. At least he tried to fight back. Zaliulas was terrible and needs to b dropped. I'd replace him with Austin. I think that's the only vacant position available for him. Austin doesn't have the composure for midfield.

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It's Reda Johnson. And secondly every tackle he made was within the laws of the game, where as an elbow to the face isn't.

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11 Jan 2014 15:58:33
Now I wouldn't be upset if we got rid of BMD, as we have got worse! Working progress should be small signs of progress, this is just a complete joke.
I'd be very happy with Steve Clarke & maybe we should be moving for him whilst he is avalible.
IMO could we not threaten players with cancelling their contracts if they continue to perform this way! Clearly they are short of confidence, but the gentle rubbing of egos clearly isn't working and therefore shock tactics need to be used!

Ben - Telford

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11 Jan 2014 16:19:23
don't know what's up at leeds .
has bmd upset some players? can't see it if players are signing new contracts.
theres defo something wrong . maybe players need rest.
I don't think we want to be changing manager unless moyes becomes available

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I'd like to see us employ a foreign manager. Look at Sunderland, everton west brom, Swansea, Watford and now a resurgent middleborough. We need a manager with no fear. To many of our previous ( british)managers cannot handle managing Leeds . It's a job that's just to big for them. We need someone fearless and preferably with some experience of English football. ,

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Curious how McDermott was the footballing equivalent of the last of the great medieval thinkers and Zaluikas was an inspired signing not so long ago. Maybe give the 49ers cheerleaders a game. Might as well . Seriously, I'm mystified (among other emotions). How can things go from shaping up nicely to excruciatingly, gut wrenchingly, shambolically bad so quickly? Something is plainly hugely wrong but I've absolutely no idea what's at the bottom of it.

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Op here.I agree with your point about a foreign manager.just don't know who.in this showing get Warnock back.

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No matter how bad things get we must keep our heads. Never get Warnock back!

Mr Happy.

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Op here. We never were this bad before. I would be more than happy to take over from bmd if anyone fancies giving me a chance.

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11 Jan 2014 15:58:00
latest; When asked if he could take any positives from his side's display, McDermott said: "Are you serious?

"After that, in a local derby, it's public humiliation as far as I'm concerned.

"It has to start on Sunday morning and I'll go back to basics with this team to do what ever we've got to do as a group.

"That was just unbelievable. It doesn't matter about being lower than the Rochdale game, that's just humiliating for all of us.

"I don't distance myself from the players because I'm part of the group. We've had a good run to get to 35 points, but we're having a poor time now.

"It's a terrible time for Leeds United, the supporters and us."

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I'd start on Saturday afternoon as soon as they got back - it's not far. If it were me they would still be training. All of them. Till after dark. Then back on Sunday morning first thing. Still in the dark.

I'm in the dark in fact.

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I agree, I think they shoulda have gone back to ER for team bonding session to try and lift morale, the more they feel sorry for themselves and lack confidence, the worse it will get, league leaders Leicester next . nuff said

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11 Jan 2014 15:55:24
Glad I opted to play golf today! Maybe leeds should have done the same! Shocked at BMD team selection! Bit early to shake it up! Was it lack of direction or lack of effort - serious question!?!

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{Ed013's Note - I think their minds were on your golf game}

I couldn't get to the game but was watching it on sky but I went to play golf at 4-0 terrible performance but we will bounce back

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Mrs had me out shopping when kicked off, so I pressed record on the sky box to watch later, we got back at 3.30 not knowing the score for the wife to say she was taking the dog and little girl out to meet her mate. fantastic I thought, I will watch the game, so I went to watch the game only to fine out we had a power cut. Gutted! then found out the score. not so gutted now that I didn't watch was supposed to have been the worst leeds game ever! will always support leeds but changes need to happen and fast. With this league we could be in a relegation battle before we know it!

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11 Jan 2014 15:50:55
Most embarrassing day as a Leeds fan in 35 years today! We just rolled over and had our bellies tickled today, I would have rather lost 8-0 and seen a fighting brave display from 10 men but nothing. No heart, no passion and no pride. Ross chased a lost cause to be fair to him but 10 others need to have a long hard look at themselves this afternoon. Leicester next who look a really decent team and another performance like today and it could be a cricket score. Really disappointed today, all the optimism and buzz created in the last 48 hrs with a couple of new signings and positive noises coming out of the club killed in 90 minutes. We are in a real rut now at the worst time of the season, 2 or 3 more results like this and we will be closer to a relegation battle than the playoffs. Not sure if a change of manager is the answer or not but without some significant funds it's going to be a backs to the wall job for the rest of a very long season, Gutted! MOT

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Ross wa useless and has been last 5 games all be it with little support, but do t make excuses for him today, he never challenged for a ball all day and lost it most times he did get hold of it. as bad as the other 10--no better

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Think that's harsh on Ross. he literally had zero service today.

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6-0 kick off, he just booted the ball to the opposition keeper, didn't chase or hassle much but the service was dire, actually the service wasn't dire, it was non existent .

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11 Jan 2014 15:45:11
Play offs, we are having a laugh. Another season over by January.

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11 Jan 2014 15:44:50
Dear Mr Haigh, I would appreciate a full refund of my ticket and traveling cost after watching that debacle of a game, take it out of the wages of your so called football team!

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11 Jan 2014 15:43:03
Just embarrassing, making Wendy look like Real Madrid! Zaliukas (out), Austin (out), Pugh (out), Peltier (out) - Murphy (in), Warnock (in), Byram (in) and give some of the kids a chance like Dawson, Walters, Lenighan etc. they'll show more fight and passion than the others. Drop the wing back system it's a joke.

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11 Jan 2014 19:29:06
No Mowatt and Lees on that list? your clearly a local . both were dreadful, especially Lees who has been poor for years now.

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11 Jan 2014 15:40:26
This is the first time I've truly questioned McDermott, not because of the result, but because of the tactical choices he made. Warnock & Byram are better full backs than Pugh & Peltier yet he continues with them. Plus, now we have two wingers, you would expect for a revert to 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 but instead we continued with the same formation minus any form of presence up top? I have faith in McDermott going forward but it took a knock today.

Still, it's just one game, onwards and upwards for next season! MOT

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Just one game, are you for real, it's been nothing but rubbish for weeks now and you wait till Leicester do the same next week! Confidence is so low and BMD is tactically inept!

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Totally agree. Brian got tactics all wrong. It's ok buying the players but you as manager have to get it right then. He plays 2 wingers and then drops big Smithy. We all expected 4-4-2
He should have changed it after 20 mins today v Wednesday. Agree Byram and Warnock in and we need another striker and central midfielder! PA

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I am not saying BM should go but is he really as experienced as we think? He has only been a manager of 1 other Club and all his other coaching/scouting success came at the same Club. I thin he followed Steve Coppell as their manager and the foundations for success had been put in place. At Leeds Utd he is having to put the foundations in place as previous manager/owner were only looking short term. Clearly he needs more time but he must get the players showing that they want to play for him and Leeds Utd. For a team to loose in the fashion we are there have to be questions over team spirit and commitment as well as players ability. You can appreciate players have different levels of ability but work rate, team spirit and commitment are all in players minds and if they don't have them then they shouldn't be playing for LUFC or any other team!

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In terms of the actual result, it is just one game, all the previous games have been fairly tight affairs that with a bit of luck we might have easily won. There's tons of scrappy games in the Championship, you can't help it, but this was men against boys.

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Not just his system, but his subs have been shocking too. How long did it take to get Byram on? And why Lees was subbed instead of Zaliukas is beyond me. The bench is poor too, just a load of plodders, rather than game changers.

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11 Jan 2014 15:32:41
Right, worst performance I have seen a leeds united team execute in 15 years as a leeds fan. Frankly embarrassing. Iv being saying months avoAustin is terrible and gives the ball away constantly. Zaliukas was absolutely appalling. Mowatt really needs to go on loan. McDermotts choice to play 2 lads in a new formation who have only being there 2 days is a recipe for disaster. Although everyone slating peltier, thought he was one if the only players who wasn't Sunday leage standard.

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Thought pearce gave his all and tried 100% even though it made no difference

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It's jvLUFC by the way can't remember my password and phone logged me out

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Pearce always does he just doesn't have quality, we've needed width we get it, at the sacrifice of any midfield play bang murphy and tonge in midfield play 442 but god knows what we are going to do about our defence I don't even have a suggestion it's sheer awful.

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11 Jan 2014 15:27:31
Rumour is we are crap.

Confrimed on OS

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11 Jan 2014 15:19:29
Can't see us winning another game with the shower of rubbish currently wearing the shirt. Unless they are offering free tickets we will struggle to get 20,000 for the Leicester game.

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11 Jan 2014 15:40:18
Dont think its the players. Managers weird formations unable to motivate and tactically inept bmd get your coat!

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11 Jan 2014 15:15:31
"Owls expecting a Leeds backlash". Some backlash that! Its now official we are a complete embarrasment .

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11 Jan 2014 15:14:59
Probert . that was never a red card
matt just about caught the guy who went down like he'd been shot
That's what cost us the chance of getting back into the game with a 442 formation

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Yes it was. He made no attempt at all to play the ball and rammed his shoulder into his face. As clear a red card as you'll see.

Please don't try and excuse his stupidity.

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You are right but it won't be rescinded because of the reaction of the Weds players and the SKY commentators (Biased?). The ref will say there was intent or it was dangerous play. HOWEVER THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON IT WON'T BE RESCINDED IS WE ARE LEEDS UNITED!

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Smith looked for the player and jumped straight into him, no attempt to play the ball.

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Grow up lads. Red card all day long.
Shrew leeds

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If it had been the other way round we'd have wanted a red card. If it was such an injustice it should have fired the other 10 players up but they're all gutless & stealing a wage yet again.

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11 Jan 2014 15:10:51
Please get rid of Austin.
Go to 4 at the back.
And get some midfielders who can pass and create.

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Agree Austin is proving not to be a good Captain and on current form not worth place in team. He needs to be dropped and if nobody else is brought in then Murphy and Mowatt CM. Zaliukas did have awful game but has done quite well before. Just think (maybe like other defenders) he was confused by the strange system they played. Had they practised it for any significant amount of time? Would persevere with Zaliukas as Captain in conventional back 4. Most Premiership teams play 4, 2, 3, 1. We should try that with Byram, Lees, Zaliukas, Warnock - Murphy, Mowatt - Kebe, McCormack, Stewart- Smith (assuming no new signings). Wouldn't do any worse than they did today!

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Totally agree. If persons like us can see it, why can't the manager?
Chris

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11 Jan 2014 15:05:44
The problem is simple Austin is rubbish he is not a captain he can not organise the players and is not a leader
The players we have need to start playing as a team again
I would put tongue back in the side as captain drop austin and zaliukas
And put Sam Byram back in for Peltier
Brian needs to lift team spirt and focus on bringing a defender who can organise the back 4

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11 Jan 2014 15:01:04
im am speechless!! draw a line brian and move on and if they want paying for that display forget it! don bless him would turn in his grave! should be ashamed of that!! nickybee

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11 Jan 2014 14:47:53
One of the worst displays of footballs I have ever seen. Zaliknus was an absolute shambles, so many silly errors he cost us at least two goals. Mowatt looked off the pace and extremely poor aswell as Pugh. I feel we should have starred byram and smith in a 442. Playing 3 at the back with 3 players who played woefully today was a stupid descision. We need to stop hooding it and start plying it around. I fell ashamed today of being a Leeds fan. WatfordWhite

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11 Jan 2014 14:43:17
At the end of the day you get what you pay for.We need money and lots of it.Simple.

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11 Jan 2014 14:42:22
Why buy wingers and use the same awful system with no target man?

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11 Jan 2014 14:40:43
Total humiliation, BMD not the man, we are going backwards, new signing are not good enough and our midfield and defence are awful, Mowatt is slow and not good enough, Austin is crap. I really don't know what else to say just so angry at paying goon money to see such a pathetic display with zero passion. I am so bloody angry that we have hit an all time low.

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11 Jan 2014 14:39:36
I'm reading a lot of posts asking for mcdermotts head,
But let's think about this before the game we were 8th in the table, this is already overachieving, most of us would of said top half would be a good season,

Looking at signings what do you expect with no real funds, we started with Colin's team which in all aspects was poor.
At least we have wingers now, one a promising young talent and another who has gained promotion before, plus a solid defender all below 32.

The owners said it was a 2 year plan the foundations are there, young talent coming though ( Mowatt), looks like more funds will be avalible and yes the last games were poor but let's not be too dis-heartened and get behind the boys .

Yes of course we would all love to be in the premier league but let's face it for now we just aren't there.

James

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Bloody hell, the way BMD is going we'll be going down not up. He has bought nothing but average or rubbish, Bates and Warnock set us back years now I think things have gone even further back, 6-0 is a total disgrace, but it's the lack of passion and desire that come from the players which is unforgivable, they honestly look like they don't want to play for him, if the owners let him get away with these performances then we will be in league 1 next year!

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No words to reply to that apart from the old rose tinted specs again .We are as low as we have ever been and what's Leicester going to do to us? .

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I don't think u was at any of the last 6 games were u

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11 Jan 2014 15:45:23
Colins team so poor they only got a point at Hillsborough last season?

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James do you need real funds to ____
Play with passion?
Give 100% effort?
Wear the leeds shirt with pride?

I was at the game today and NO player deserves to collect a wage.
If they put the effort in and lose I don't mind but that was DIABOLICAL.

AndyMOT

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11 Jan 2014 14:36:33
the worst performance I have seen for quite some time, starting kebe and stewart was an awful idea they have only been with us two days and as for smith what an person, we need something to change and fast or brian might find himself unemployed. let's hope we can turn this around we need two new centre mids because austin is just a donkey and does not really offer anything in attack or defence and we need to drop mowatt not beacause he's bad but because we need some experience and taking batterings like that can not be helping his development.

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11 Jan 2014 14:35:42
I've been a big fan of Brian McD, but I can't work out what he's trying to achieve. It's clear that the 3-4-3 doesn't work. The three centre halves don't know where to stand, constantly out of position, all at sea for set plays. Peltier and Pugh are incapable of playing in midfield leaving them stranded, and us overrun in the middle. Austin can't pass, and has no stamina. McCormack playing up front, alone, against two 6ft plus defenders. It's stupid, incompetent management. It just cried out for 4-4-2. Smith up top, McCormack running off the ball. A proper wing back in Byram and Warnock. The manager cost us, poor decisions. He needs to wake up, or he's a gonna. And that hurts to say

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Totally agree. The fans can see what formation works with the poor resources we have so why can't B McD? Can't wait to see what excuses are offered up this time.

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11 Jan 2014 14:35:20
I like mcdermott. he's a good man. But sorry mate your in trouble now. don't know where to start.
Questioned stewarts signing, was sub for charlton. Did he make his debut today? Thought I saw him on team sheet.
And zaliuskas was prob worst defender I've seen at leeds in my 30 years of going.
Ross looked like he was looking for his mummy, not the ball.
It was a red but was very poor before that.
Not sure what else to say but with leicester and ipswich next its looking bleak. Shrew leeds

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11 Jan 2014 14:33:33
shocking performance the day brian has 2 go we havnt got any better under him. his signin have been useless. matt smith should never play for leeds again. can't believe how bad the defence is the midfield is worst austin and mowatt simple not good enough can't pass the ball. no chance makin the play offs. worst defeat in 55 years 2 a average team

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11 Jan 2014 13:38:59
OMG it's the 60 minute in the game and I can honestly say I have never seen a worse display. Keble looks like doesn't want to be here several players couldn't care less Tom lees needs dropping. Sheffield Wed 100% deserve the win the only plus point is the hard work of Ross McCormack. Something needs doing ASAP the 5-3-2 formation doesn't work. What do you think ED

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11 Jan 2014 14:26:17
Absolute disgrace. embarrassing, poor, no desire, no balls, no heart, no passion. 10 out of the 11 starting don't deserve to be wearing the white shirt. Ross McCormack only player to chase down balls and show any kind of fight. I'm behind Brian but what's his excuse now? I question his tactics today, He has stuck with smith without any width and nothing to feed off, we bring in two wingers then gets dropped? Can't get my head around that. Jim_lufc

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11 Jan 2014 14:45:39
Would say Pearce gave his all as well. But what has happened to the Zaliukas - Looks like a complete amatuer

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I've been impressed with zaliukas until last two games but today all the back 3 were dreadful. Where do we go from here? We have some of the best fans in the country but only so much we can take before there's a backlash. Can take getting beat but playing without passion, heart, bottle, desire, cannot accept that. Jim_lufc

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Unfortunately Pearce all not good enough. Yes he tries his hardest all the time but he just to slow physically and in speed of thought. Some players make up for lack of physical speed with quick thinking but he seems unable to do so. Think Zaliukus will prove better option in back 4 with Lees or Wootton (both lacking confidence and game time at moment)

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11 Jan 2014 14:25:21
i remember when we put 6 past the wendies iwhen we won the league. Wilko.wanna job?!

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11 Jan 2014 14:23:50
Go & buy Connor Wickham to partner Ross, then 2 new defenders & a midfielder or 2.

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11 Jan 2014 14:21:56
6? Just a sniff mcd needs to up his game. How many players has he signed? 5-7? PlUs he inherited 3-4 decent ones! don't blame warnock now. Playing both new signings to me is stupid. Showed for first time mcd might not be the man!
Needs to turn things around quickly!

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11 Jan 2014 14:21:17
Next signing should be Malky McKay - That was appalling. Even when we had 11 men the team showed hardly any interest or ability: it was pathetic.

Why play wingers with no big man from the start, especially with one striker up front?

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11 Jan 2014 14:20:56
KEEP THE FAITH! long term sustainable change is the key here. More than half the squad is still left over garbage from Warnock but it is changing. With this squad we are doing well to even be in the top half of the table. WE ARE LEEDS, MOT

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C'mon man you're only fooling yourself open your eyes there's only 1 reason were in this lucky position and that ross McCormack without him this season we'd be in the relegation zone

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The only good player on that pitch was Grayson's McCormack.
McDermotts signings are as appalling as Warnocks - Kebe tried but got nowhere and Stewart wasn't even involved. Murphy has been dropped because he isn't good enough and zalukas was terrible.
he doesn't know his best team and the tactics are terrible. We have gone back to Warnock style big scorelines and I think Leicester will probably be the same (though I pray it isn't)

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Ye you just backed up my point exactly, with this squad we are lucky to even be in the top half. without mccormack we definatly would not be there.

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I really think anyone judging a player on their first game with only a day or two to train is being a bit silly.

As for changing the manager, now is not the time. This is a 2-3 year project and constantly changing managers rarely achieves anything. How many people wanted Fergie out at Man U after a couple of seasons?

We need to keep cool and get some perspective, see what the window brings and judge the manager when his new signings have had some time to bed in.

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11 Jan 2014 14:20:06
Malky Mackay is the man we need.

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Yes I totally agree. I never thought it possible for Leeds to get a worse manager than Warnock but my god they did it, BMD is clueless!

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11 Jan 2014 14:19:54
Football is a simple game. Keeper, you stop the ball going into your net. Defenders, you stop the opposition from having any opportunity to shoot at your goal. Midfielders, you tackle and win the ball when you have not got it and move forward, pass and create chances when you do. Strikers, you put the ball in the net. How do you do these simple things? You keep the ball on the ground pass to your own side and move into space when you don't have the ball. Any chance our players might do some of these simple things in the near future?

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BM did say that he would have to go back to basics with this team!

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11 Jan 2014 14:19:13
Ok let's be positive, who do you think should be the next manager?

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11 Jan 2014 14:18:19
After that absolute disgrace of a performance I certainly am not going next weekend and I have a season ticket. No fight, no determination, wrong players, wrong formation, just wrong. Players and manager should be ashamed today. Disgusting.

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11 Jan 2014 14:18:00
Absolutely Shocking, Embarrassing, You have to question the Managerial skills of McDermott, Getting beat is bad enough but its the manner of the defeats.The team look tactically clueless, and have no confidence within themselves 6-0 against an average team is undefendable,

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11 Jan 2014 14:16:51
Austin has been a disgrace for weeks and yet he still plays.Defence rubbish, midfield non existant and attack? What attack.Time for change as Bmd is not the right man.

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11 Jan 2014 14:10:54
Time for a change, lost the dressing room .They are not performing for BMD.

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11 Jan 2014 13:56:28
gutted embarrassed ashamed are just a few words that spring to mind . its time for big changes to our great club. wrong players starting wrong formations players playing out of position . mcdermott had long enough now i'm sick of the same excuses . malky mackay for me let's try and salvage this sinking ship . fed up pi--ed of leeds fan . mick mc. mot.

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11 Jan 2014 14:09:30
I'm really really worried about bmcd's movement in the transfer market, his tactics and his motivational skills.
I think kebe will be a good signing but Stewart is just another below average player in the same mould as hunt and smith added to a below average squad .
Outplayed by Rochdale is bad enough but the reaction against weds is very worrying

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Agree. Shrew leeds

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11 Jan 2014 14:01:31
Last week BMcD said Rochdale was the worst moment of his managerial career. A week later, surely it must now be the second worst. What a disgrace.
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11 jan 2014 13:57:29
when is anybody going to listen to me we can't defend. fact

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Maybe when you have something interesting to say? I don't think you're saying anything that we don't already know.

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11 Jan 2014 13:50:27
Who on earth will join us now!!

We are a total joke of an excuse of a "team"

Clueless!!

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11 Jan 2014 13:44:20
we all hate having to put up with Colin's bad buys, but why does MCD play them. So Pugh had two good games when he first came in! the fact that he could never be a regular in any team is because he's inconsistent! two good games then he thinks he's Messi (his defending usually is!). And Peltier? PLEASE! Anyone with a hole in his bum can see he's lower league . Don't tell me we haven't got young lads out on loan that would at least be as good, but with more desire and more affinity for the club.

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11 Jan 2014 14:23:16
1) Wrong line up away from home against a very big side surely that would be easy to see.
2) Wrong to bring in both new players in a away derby game.
3) Back three not capable of supplying wingers with the ball, Lees with usual hoof ball is not going to get the ball to a wingers feet.
4) Ross having to do too much on the ball to make up for the lack of skill in midfield.


I prey and hope that the takeover and new signings have not caused unrest in the camp if so Brian you need to earn your money and settle the ship quickly.

Also note to Sky any danger we can have a Sky match at home getting sick of watching away games as can't get to ER.

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11 Jan 2014 13:43:49
Brian, where was the response you promised us after last weeks debacle at Rochdale?
Starting line up wrong! Neither Mowatt or Lees can control the ball.Our defenders are an absolute disgrace to the shirt! We play with wide men but are incapable of getting the ball to them. We show no passion or desire. A very embarrassed fan!

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Really can't agree about Mowatt. He was the only midfielder that did anything in the first 15-20 minutes. Austin, Zaliukas and Smith have a lot more to answer for than either Lees or Mowatt.

Bad team selection didn't help things. I think it would be a bad mistake to change manager now but he really needs to take a look at his tactics.

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11 Jan 2014 13:38:08
iam starting to tire of brian macs excuses stewart/kebe waste of money

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Judging them after one game with only one day to train? Think you need to get a grip mate.

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Dont be suprised if this is Macs last game in charge, the team is going backwards, no midfield, no defence and brings wingers in, poor tactics as well, the next big money signing should be a quality, proven manager, the core of this current team is dire, time for change.

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Give it time, we could win the next 15 games.

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Their player Lavery - who has just helped himself to the goal buffet - has just come back from Division Two in Northern Ireland. Absolutely diabolical - especially after a) McDermott supposedly reading them the riot act after the debacle against Rochdale and b) the goodwill generated by the tie up with the 49'ers and the signing of two players (now blown apart after only 90 minutes). Sort it out Brian McDermott .

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I have no idea what the answer is. Sack the manager and bring in another then sack him and so and so on.

I can't support another club so I may just give in on football. Supporting Leeds is just too heart-breaking and brings too much disappointment and very little pleasure.

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Hes come back from plymouth don't think that's anywhere near northern ireland

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11 Jan 2014 13:37:29
This is beyond words now. Totally unacceptable. No spirit no fight no pride. In a perfect world they'd get no wages either

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Totally agree. Smith may have seen a red card almost immediately but at least when he walks on the pitch he has a desire to win. I'm struggling to see any fight and passion in this side at the minute. You would have thought being kicked out the cup by Rochdale would have given them a wake up call but obviously not. A game like this next week and we will be seeing a worse scoreline than this against Leicester.
McDermott needs to sort it out!

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I'm not sure 'desire to win' and ramming your shoulder into an opponent's face are quite the same thing.

It was passionless but Smith was moronic.

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11 Jan 2014 13:36:24
I've supported (albeit with gritted teeth) the side over the last few weeks/month, but there isn't enough asterix's in the world to allow me to talk about this weeks performance. Awful. Firstly the 343 is just baffling. Secondly, and by the far the most concerning matter, the players just haven't got any fight. Rolling over and taking a beating. Pathetic.

Ross and Kenny aside, none fit to wear the shirt atm. What a joke of a performance.

ValleyWhite.

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At last a slight positive- Byram looking good and got fight.why not play him from the start?

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Kenny dire as aways. No excuses, you don't concede 6 without your keeper being at fault!

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Kenny was awful and didn't attempt to stop a goal he could. And ross just run about

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It would of been 6 last week if it wasn't for Kenny. Zaliukas was really poor. No quality. no pace & all knackered.

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11 Jan 2014 13:33:27
watching the game we are uesless cannot string to passes together to new players have not changed a thing

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Time for you to go macdermot your stupid 3 5 2 formation is not working and u know it had too change it at half time against Blackburn Rochdale and now sheff wed. This season is going exactly the same as last god oh knows what next wks score is going to b when we actually play a decent side.
Haydock white

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11 Jan 2014 13:47:27
Austin needs a midfield partner the kids ain't up fir the battle yet, They are good when we have the run of the ball but go missing when we don't.
In mcd I trust MOT

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11 Jan 2014 13:31:07
Does anyone else think it's desperate to put 2 new players straight into the squad that I can't imagine have trained much if at at with the rest of the squad I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this seeing as we have not played this system or even probably trained in this system, I was expecting the change to be implemented over a few weeks . gamble gone wrong so far I think.

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Exactly what I was thinking mate, no training no getting use to the formation. I say formation but I don't tink I saw anything close to an organised formation today! One more thing, 5 men offside on our free kick absolutely humiliating!

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11 Jan 2014 13:30:46
Just left the ground, what a disgrace. The new guys look so lightweight, Mowatt is not good enough, Lees not good enough, Austin has been awful for weeks. We don't have a clue. Smith is just stupid.

Where do we go from here!!!!!

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11 jan 2014 13:15:16
peltier -crap
lees - crap
austin- crap

we need a left back
stopper in mid field and a creative midfielder
and a defensive coach.

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What about zaliuskas. I watched him cery closely and worst defending I've seen. Shrew leeds

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11 Jan 2014 13:12:47
pearce and lees are CRAP!

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Lets be honest. On this performance the whole team is crap.And I'm starting to have my doubts about MCDERMOTT.

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It is so bad I have turned the game off
what the hell is going on?
Austin is bloody useless we have no midfield and the defence is getting worse by the second

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IMO the defence has been poor going as fer back as McCallister, good attack and decent mdfield under Grayson, sod all under Warlock, and nothings changed so far under Mac, you have to wonder wether the owners will continue to back him with further signings afraid its one tep forward and two back again, mid to low table finish I fear.

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What a shambles, midfield that can't string 2 passes together. 4 defenders trying to look busy with only 1 STRIKER to look after, none of which are within 10yds of him.
Push a defender into midfield no need for 4 marking 1?
Movement off the ball in NONE existant i'm really really gutted even Rosco looks clueless.
BMD I've never slated you, really hope you know what your doing we seem to have NO ideas at the moment ;(

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11 Jan 2014 13:08:25
Losing 2.0. This is the worst leeds united team I've seen since Rochdale away.

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The problem as I see it is the following

1. Pearce Lees not comfortable on the ball and panic when they have it in possession.

2. Mowatt not quick enough or strong enough great when he has time but struggles otherwise

3. Austin not a good enough ball player can work hard and tackle but no telling delivery

4. Keble and Stewart not match fit lacking games and look off the pace

5.Zaliukas too casual and not strong enough to be the main centre half

6. And of course 11 players on the pitch helps just seen Smith get sent off

We really deserve better than this we still need at least four quality signings and we need to pay some Money to get them

Now it's three nil this is embarrassing I can't write anymore it's too painful

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Absolutely shocking, i've never been so embarrassed watching Leeds! They may as well call it full time and sod off home now!

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Exactly same performance. spineless, no leadership on the pitch, manager got it totally wrong today also-I know he got sent off when he came on but smith should have been brought on after 25, obvious it wasn't working. maybe he's either too nice a bloke or not ruthless enough to be a manager

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To the original poster, even in the midst of despair Leeds fans can keep a sense of humour, at least one thing to make me smile today, thanks.

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11 Jan 2014 13:07:52
utter rubbish why play 3 at the back just not working peltier rubbish pugh rubbish and yet they still play(sort off) and if ross;s body language is anything to go by he's off!

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11 Jan 2014 13:07:42
Brutal first half. Need huge improvement

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11 Jan 2014 13:05:36
What did B Mc say we will use Rochdale result as a learning process! This is going to be a huge defeat, what's going on?

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11 Jan 2014 13:04:45
What a load of rubbish, defence is all over the place, Austin has not passed the ball apart from giving it away

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11 Jan 2014 13:04:18
Shocking absolutely shocking

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11 Jan 2014 13:02:56
Shocking first half display.

We finally get 2 quick wingers and leave smith on the bench!
Mccormack will graft but won't strive in this system
Mowatt looks out of his depth
Austin looks like he has no confidence.
Zaliukas looks poor at the back, doesn't inspire confidence or leading the boys with all that experience.
Swap to 4-4-2 and switch Zaliukas for Smith.

Trying to stay positive for the 2nd half. but where is the passion?

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11 Jan 2014 13:01:38
WTF is going on.2 wingers on and we're hoofing it long.Took 42 mins to get a crap header off target.And as for Austin get him off he gave the ball away for goal 2.

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11 Jan 2014 12:56:14
As usual the fans turn up in their numbers and the Leeds players don't turn up at all. Motivation is clearly the issue so how come every other team can do it and we can't. Sick of the excuses.

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11 Jan 2014 12:54:20
Why aren't we playing 4-4-2 same old long ball

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11 Jan 2014 12:41:15
Never mind a midfielder/winger/striker - any chance of a decent defender? Or 2

Any one else getting annoyed with sky commentary getting mowatt and Stewart mixed up all the time? They don't even look a like!

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11 Jan 2014 12:40:59
Why the hell are we playing 1 up front with 3 centre halfs, ridiculous, we ginally get wingers to supply smith and stick him on the bench!. unbelievable

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11 jan 2014 12:38:47
please refer to my previous posts over the last couple of years, we can't defend. fact

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11 Jan 2014 13:04:05
terrible, his stupid tactics, get 2 wingers and don't play your 6ft plus target man- thin ice Mr .McDermott

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11 Jan 2014 13:04:50
Complete joke lol

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I agree. This is embarrassing to watch. Shocking defending. Mowatt looks unfit. Peltier lazy and Austin is just crap!

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11 Jan 2014 12:37:40
20 mins gone, and omg our defence is shocking 1-0 down already

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11 Jan 2014 11:49:17
Well let's hope we get a great win today, Both new lads playing shame Austin is though he has been terrible for 5 games now.

Just about to watch the game 2-1 To The Mighty Whites

Ed; Are we chasing Le Fondre? or anybody else?

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The only thing we're chasing is shadows.absolute garbage.

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11 Jan 2014 11:39:34
leeds playing 3-4-3 today unless its 3-1-5-1

kenny

lees
pearce
zaliukas

peltier
mowatt
austin
pugh

kebe
mccormack
stewart

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11 Jan 2014 11:34:15
Looking at charltons views on stewart, overall opinion is he is weak on his crosses, great just what mccdermott brought him in for.also they reckon he is lazy and doesn't track back

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11 Jan 2014 09:19:46
I think two more signings which would complete the team would be Bridcutt and Le Fondre however they would both cost a lot. Bridcutt has handed in a transfer request but we'd be lucky to snatch him above Premier League opposition.
Le Fondre is also wanting to leave his current club Reading, and they announced they'd listen to offers for the striker. Despite no bids been made, Le Fondre is high on McDermotts list and he is showing interest to link up with his former colleague.
Le Fondre would also link up great with new signing Jimmy Kebe and he would supply ALF with tons of goals. With these two players on top of the signings we've already made I think this team could earn promotion back to the Premier League:

McCormack Le Fondre
Stewart Kebe
Bridcutt Austin
Pugh Pearce Lees Byram
Kenny

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Neither Austin or Bridcutt are play makers

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11 Jan 2014 11:50:44
Where is our best defender in that line up?

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Scoops he's at right back

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11 Jan 2014 08:49:36
Don't know why as we already have Srewart and Kebe but Buckley of Brighton is the latest name linked with a move to Leeds

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Altrinchamwhite signed qaulity?
Ive just left the ground and feel like calling in a sports shop and buying a pair of boots, if I can't play better than that I will eat my words.

NO PASSION NO PRIDE SHOCKING

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11 Jan 2014 07:09:36
Leeds to fail again. Is anyone else fed up of the same BS that spouts from elland road. Kebe is a decent signing but will be a flop you just know it's going to happen. Leeds will lose to Wednesday today and fail to make playoffs

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Wow, you woke up happy didn't you!

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Mate I bet you are a real motivator in life, why don't you go and support someone else we don't need fans like you, I'm getting wound up just writing this let alone being in your presence.

Dougie

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11 Jan 2014 08:59:06
How lickly is it the new signing will play today?

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Don't you just love the positive " support" some of
our "supporters" give!
For the 1st time in 8 years in a January transfer
window we've signed quality . Sure we would
have moaners if we signed Messi!
Let's have the usual great support at the match
today.

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Don't you just love you positive posters. Christ you could be married to Pamela Anderson and complain she can't cook. How about just getting behind your team for once? We are in a better position now than we have been in years GHF are more transparent and we have had more forward thinking in 12m than we have had in 8yrs with Bates. Give them time the pieces are coming together getting back to the prem was always a 2yr plan

MOT

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11 Jan 2014 09:09:00
And who do you support?

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11 Jan 2014 09:21:03
Good intelligent and optimistic post well thought out that man . Got any more jewels of wisdom you would like to share.
By the way you do know this is a Leeds sit your posting on?

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11 Jan 2014 10:52:06
Q - what is the difference between the original poster and a battery?

A - the battery has a positive side

If ever there was a need for some happy pills

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11 Jan 2014 13:20:01
HT 2-0 down

Original poster may have a point!

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10 Jan 2014 21:51:18
hi ed, I know that Andrew flowers is part of the consortium that is buying leeds but have you any ideas about the others?, is one of them linked with the NFL team we have liked up with?

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{Ed013's Note - I don't think the 49ers partnership is anything to do with the takeover. I am still intrigued by the Peter Virdee involvement, leaving 1 unknown board member. People are speculating that it is red bull, but it may be someone that wants to stay in the background. Only time will tel mate, sooner rather than later}